after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
I have already clarified this.
It is the Kingdom Message that makes one organization right, hence all those organization whose foundation is kingdom message are true, and all those who have kingdom qualities (in which ever nations they may be) will be saved. That comes to what you say: even if there is no JWs org, God's purpose will go forward "gathering all the worthy ones from all nations and from all four corners of the world."
Yes, you are right.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
We can change only ourselves, not the organization. Let them behave the way they like and qualify to receive the appropriate response from Supreme Authorities—Jehovah and Jesus. We will be silent till Jesus does his work of “gathering the worthy ones from all nations and from all ends of the earth.” My dad was like me from 1975, and was an Elder till his death a decade ago. Like my dad there many people within the organization who do not allow their minds to be controlled by the organization.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
You say: “The problem is the JW religion allows no such negotiation.” We know that very well, that is why we keep it in confidence. We prove that they have no control over our minds. Since all the worthy ones in “all nations” are going to be saved, there is no need to leave the JW org. I discussed here in this forum not because I needed validation or not because I am afraid to discuss with JWs. It is because to show that there is one more option. So far, people were either in or out. Third option is to accept the absolute truth of Kingdom Message & Kingdom qualities, and put in low profile all other teachings with all its attendant evils.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
I agree with you. My reference to JWs is like using the word automobile. Here I used JWs as being right with regard to Kingdom message because this is a forum that discusses about JWs. Actually it is the Kingdom Message that makes one organization true, thus all organizations that look to God’s Kingdom as the solution to mankind’s problems are true. And interestingly, if they err in supplementary teachings, they do not become false as such teachings are like color coating to an automobile. What matters is that whether the automobile runs or not, not the color. Hence whether Kingdom is spiritual or not, established in 1914 or not, duration of generation, elder arrangement … all are insignificant. Does not 1 Thess 5:21 warn us against giving importance to supplementary teachings?
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
How sweet you penned these words (“I appreciate the information that you give about us about your relaxed attitude to the JW system.” Yet absolutely “my relaxed attitude to the JW system”—you caught my feeling with 100% accuracy.
We have no worry about their disciplinary action as everything is going on in our mind only. We read all the references with regard to Kingdom and Kingdom qualities with utmost care and interest, all other things in WT publications and in the scriptures we read just like we read daily newspapers.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
We develop Kingdom qualities and leave everything to Almighty. We do not want to prove anything before Kingdom actually comes. Everyone knows what is right and wrong, hence each one is responsible for his life.
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
This is extremely simple. Believe in the Kingdom, and switch over to Kingdom qualities, you will be saved wherever you are—in which organization you are matters not.
If the above is difficult to believe or confusing to you, it is better you continue as you are—enjoy your limited life to the full.
prologos, You ask: “in what medium do these vibrations propagate, do you have senders, receivers? how can you verify this spooky action at a distance?”
When I come in contact (in person or by whichever means) with a man of my sort, spirit in me witnesses to me that this one is of Kingdom qualities. If not, no special vibration is received. The same happens to the other person too. I cannot explain this like the neuro-scientist explains how neurons (that are separated by a tiny gap called the synaptic cleft) communicate over long distances by sending signals called nerve impulses. I know it happens, and do not know how?
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
You say “be wary.. sooner or later rule might show it's ugly metamorphosis again.”
No chance, because
1) We have no intention to come together at any time (which is actually the duty of Jesus which he will do in the end gathering all the worthy ones from “all nations” which includes JWs who are just one among "all the nations") Hence no question of one ruling over other, no privileges, no contribution ….
2) We are linked by the genuine thought-vibrations, only the genuine ones feel like us, only genuine ones are in this group never seeing each other. In all these years we have had not even one betrayer among us!
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
