You made an amazing point (except the last two verses: “This Unseen is You and it Is me, it is My Dog, and it is your Neighbour it is the Moon and the Sun, it is even Stephen Lett. We are all this Unseen Presence. We must Evolve.” This is because I know Stephen Lett personally)
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My Explanation of God.
by LAWHFol ini am a theist & this is my version of god.. instead of using the term god, i'll use "unseen presence".. this unseen presence, is perfect in every way.
this presence is so perfect it can seem a bit boring.this perfection can be seen in the laws of science, for example gravity.. it does not sometimes work, depending on the mood of some one in the sky, it always works, perfectly.
gravity does not get angry and decide to stop working, and cause the death of innumerable living beings, it just works, through thick or thin, it is reliable.. what allows this unseen presence to remain perfect, is the fact that it does not act based on emotion, or strategy or regret.. it acts based on law, mathematical law.. this unseen presence is not partial to jews or muslims or jw's it is completely impartial at all times, to everything that exists.
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Evolution and Creation—both are stories!
by lsw1961 inthere are number of nobel laureates and other great scientists in both the camps defending their respective theories of evolution and creation, which means both are just stories, and both suffer from having no eye-witnesses.
if either of them were true, all scientists would have accepted it unanimously as they do with rest of the laws such as law of gravity..
this does not mean that there is no god.
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There are number of Nobel Laureates and other great scientists in both the camps defending their respective theories of Evolution and Creation, which means both are just stories, and both suffer from having no eye-witnesses. If either of them were true, all scientists would have accepted it unanimously as they do with rest of the Laws such as Law of Gravity.
This does not mean that there is no God. There are two channels for the acquisition of knowledge—1) five senses, 2) intuitive knowledge—something that Einstein admitted that he used in the formulation of his theory of relativity. Now let us use our intuitive mind, along with on our experience:
1) I came through my parents (not from them, because they did not create their sperms and eggs, and also they did nothing in the formation of me within the womb of my mother which happened with no conscious effort from my parents).
2) My parents came through their parents (not from them)…..
If we go back like this, where is that it is going to end? We humans know that we exist, and we also know that other beings inferior to human beings exist. Just because we know these much, can we say that there exist no other beings superior to humans? No one would say that he knows to count from 1 to 10, hence 10 is the highest number. Similarly, no one can authentically believe in his heart that humans are the highest of high and there are no superior beings, or no Supreme Being above us. It is not for no reason that remembrance of a Supreme Being appearing virtually in all cultures as one who gives a perfect start to human history. If humans continue to live by their conscience doing good to each other, they will prosper, otherwise they will decline in quality and will reach the climax state of affairs (as the Bible puts figuratively) as though in “mixture of clay and iron.” At this point, it is natural that the Supreme Being “will set up a kingdom” which “will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, making everything new.” (Daniel 2:44; Rev 21:5). For anyone to benefit from this intervention of God, naturally he should have already lived kingdom-life manifesting kingdom qualities.
Religions are supposed to lead people into the above awareness and into cultivating Kingdom qualities—especially compassion. (Mathew 9:13) Compassion is king of all good qualities, and it is not a dry quality which drains our savings or assents. Compassion primarily helps the giver himself (rather than the recipients) because helping others is in effect helping ourselves as it produces joy and brings cooperation from others in the long run. However, all religions start off well; then they turn into money-making through supplementary teachings like fence eating the crops. (Mathew 13:33) It is sad to say that JWs are also no exception. However ‘eagle-eyed ones’ (Mathew 24:28) are simply soaring above the supplementary teachings, focused on their own growth in Kingdom qualities so that they come into a worthy stage. Then it is God’s turn—He “will gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens” (Mark 13:27) which means God’s people are found in “all nations” or religions. (Mathew 25:32)
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Jesus was a historical person, but he may have been presented in the Bible differently. That is entirely different question.
You would not have raised such questions if you had read my OP in which I said "except Kingdom and Kingdom qualities" no teaching is important, hence not discussion-worthy.
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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lsw1961
You ask: “Do you believe that JF Rutherford died faithful to God and is in heaven?”
Don’t make such personal attack on dignified people of an esteemed organization which has more good things than bad. Just because you were disciplined by the JWs org, you cannot blindly attack this org and its leaders.
You are free to disagree with an organization, but personal attack is not warranted. It is still my motherly organization. Just like this forum has its terms and conditions, violation of which would invite deletion or disfellowshipping, JWs also have. Hence there is no difference between this forum and JWs. Members of JWs are dignified in their speech. But go through this forum and see how many members of this forum measure up to basic manners. In all my lives, I have never heard anyone uttering the word bullshit or shit among JWs--even in our formal settings like during cong.picnic. Here in this forum, shit is the word we here more than any other word.
I invite all of you, come back to JW organization--try to learn from them the basic etiquette at least in speech.
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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You ask: “Would you give the same pass to Christendom on its evils?”
“Do not resist the wicked” is a wise counsel—it is a waste of time as far as religions are concerned. Confronting the wicked is the work of the Government, and ultimately of Heavenly Government.
If you want a peaceful life, you have to watch only the good, and ignore the ills which is actually their problem which they have chosen for themselves.
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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lsw1961
To all those who ridicule me.
What is this all about? You all are coming against me as though with a bulldozer to crush an egg, with some even calling names such as IS. This is worse than Judicial Committee of JWs? Is this the forum to discuss about JWs as your caption text claims? Is this all out-attack for saying “there is a third wise option” of supporting the good and ignoring the ills? Yesterday, cofty claimed this world is not decadent, but we are living in the best part of history. If attacking the good just because he is good is not the sign of a decadent society, what is decay? I am now fully confident that this world is beyond redemption. You have fortified my conviction further.
Cofty, ask sensible questions about JWs only—I will answer. If some organization is your night-mare, that’s your problem for which you have to seek cure.
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Witness My Fury and cofty
It seems you both feel nervous seeing just two of my posts as it is obviously against your known stand.
However, ours is wisdom in action. You people acted like a man who tried to take on a running goods train by his head (against JW system) thus lost everything.
But here are many people like me still enjoying the countless benefits of JW system by being right in its midst supporting its good contributions, yet not being part of its evils. This is a great feat of balancing act which you people can be envious of (which you prove yourself by desparately accusing me for the sake of accusing—saying I am campaigning for some organization other than JWs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone speak more senselessness than this?
Is this at the root of all atheists?
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Humility and non-cooperation with the arrogant is more powerful than a world war. Haven’t you heard of a man in India (named MK Gandhi) who brought to kneel the British Empire (that was ruling 2/3 of the earth at that time with iron rod) through his peaceful method called non-cooperation?
Similarly, we support JWs in all its goods; and extends non-cooperation towars all its evils!
Confrontation can only create some disfellowshippings, and accomplishes nothing!
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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You ask: ”an imminent Armageddon real?”
Armagddon is real. Imminent or not depends on the degree of madness humans would display. For the last 40 years, we are experiencing terrorism. Have we succeeded in bringing it down? It is only increasing. Why? Violence has become the inner aspects of individuals which reflects in the collective consciousness. Will we succeed in bringing sea-level rise? This too increases. All our progresses are inadequate—it is like we fill a tank that has more leakages.
The only thing that is certain in our lives is our death—when, where and how we do not know.
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The only thing that is absolutely certain on global aspects, it is Armageddon— when, where and how we do not know. It will be started by man’s madness, and will be concluded by God who will use it as a means to bring in Paradise on earth.