Posts by Snoozy

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Unconditional love?

by Snoozy in

whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

Snoozy

Shades of Grey, that's what my husband did after we got married. I was so young and had been taught that the husband is the boss. He cut me off from my friends saying they weren't good people and he did the same with my family as they weren't JW's. He talked bad about my fammily and when finally one day I decided to go for counseling the Dr talked with one of my daughters and that's when I found out he had brainwashed my kids to think that my side of the family(non JW's) was bad and his (JW's) was good. Funny how things can go on right under your nose and still not have a clue.

That opened up a big can of worms..

Big hug to you..

Snoozy

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Unconditional love?

by Snoozy in

whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

Snoozy

I think Talespin knows what I mean..I think today people abuse more than they used to..they take advantage of one another or as someone stated just keep abusing..

I saw a Dr Phil program that had a grown son on that had molested his younger sister years earlier. They were both on the show as was the mom. The Mom said she loved the boy unconditionally but didn't approve of what he did to her daughter and his sister.. I was imagining how the daughter felt when hearing this..would she feel her mom was taking sides? Would she want her mom to hate the son? It seemed like the girl was also forgiving him and he did apologise saying he now has a daughter and realizes how he must have ruined his sisters life and he was so sorry. At the end the daughter stated that sometimes she wished she had never told as she felt it tore up the family. Dr Phil told her she did not own the act..it was her brothers fault. She should not in any way feel guilty..

But how can you go on from there? It will always be in their minds..

This is what gave me the idea of unconditional love..I would think the mom would have been torn in two..would it be the same if it was a father/husband that had molested the daughter? Would she still have unconditional love for him?

I do understand the part about the abusing relatives..I can see staying away from them.

Some interesting comments!

Snoozy

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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!

by metatron in

jw
friends

sometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.

there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').

in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.

Snoozy

Puppet masters..

Snoozy..

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Do you believe in Miracles?

by Snoozy in

do you believe in miracles?

i know a lot of strange healings and such occur but why should it happen to one person and not another?

makes me doubt that real miracles exist... praying for someone..why should one person be prayed for and survive and another one prays and doesn't survive..is god choosey?.

Snoozy

Do you believe in miracles? I know a lot of strange healings and such occur but why should it happen to one person and not another? Makes me doubt that real miracles exist..

Praying for someone..why should one person be prayed for and survive and another one prays and doesn't survive..is God choosey?

That would mean that the person with the most friends and the most prayers should win right?

The whole miracle thing just doesn't seem fair to me..and it doesn't make sense..therefore..

It must not exist.

Snoozy

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I don't believe there is a heaven...

by Snoozy in

i don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?

it all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... i got into a discussion about it with my jw converted to catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like i do.

i am glad she threw away the jw teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but i for one just can't.

Snoozy

Monkey boy, I'm not arguing. I guess I would love someone to really be able to prove it exists..I may need it someday.. And it sounds a lot better than no existance does..

But alas..I'm afraid no one really can..it is something that is a personal belief like 'Santa' is.

I guess the good news is that I don't believe in Hell either..just that sleeping forever ruins my plans for the future..

Snoozy

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Unconditional love?

by Snoozy in

whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

Snoozy

I was talking about people in general..I have relatives that get their nose out of joint at a family member and refuse to talk to them..One of them even oked it with a counselor..the counselor backed up their feelings. Said it was OK to have no contact or limited contact with someone (family or not) if they wanted to...

I always felt that family should stick together no matter what. Talk out the problems and come to a happy medium somehow
Even with good friends, none of them are perfect but if you throw away everyone you disagree with or if they have an opinion you don't like you will soon end up all alone..

Just doesn't work for me..

People just aren't tolerant anymore..they constantly find fault with others and want others to be perfect like they are..

Snoozy..

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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!

by metatron in

jw
friends

sometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.

there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').

in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.

Snoozy

There ya go LRG..

I really really believe it!..When you been around as long as me you see and hear and read a lot..then you put two and two together..

Youngsters call you cynical..I call it observant.

Works for me..

Snoozy

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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!

by metatron in

jw
friends

sometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.

there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').

in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.

Snoozy

I believe there is a 'elite group' that really controls the world/government.. I think they know who will even be president in the future and they make things happen.l. I think voting and laws are all a useless coverup..just there to appease the public.

I think some of what the Illuminati stands for is true in that sense..

I really feel the ones with the big bucks..control the world..and they go out of their way to appear as if they don't..

Those are the ones with the real power.

Snoozy..

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I don't believe there is a heaven...

by Snoozy in

i don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?

it all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... i got into a discussion about it with my jw converted to catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like i do.

i am glad she threw away the jw teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but i for one just can't.

Snoozy

I don't believe there is a heaven that so many religions teach, do you?

It all sounds like a fairy tale made up to make dying easier or as a threat to make someone have a conscience... I got into a discussion about it with my JW converted to Catholic daughter and she just couldn't believe anyone could feel like I do. I am glad she threw away the JW teachings and glad she believes in something so wonderful but I for one just can't. I guess you would call me a realist? Is that the right term?

I also can't believe there is such a person/thing as a devil..

And yet I have morals, I am programed to do "the right thing" whenever I can but not because of any punishment from god, just because I feel it is a humane way to be.

I confuse myself sometimes..

Now my daughter is intent on proving there is really a Heaven..I hate to argue with her because I don't want to bust any bubble she may have for her future.

Just one of those crazy things old/mature people think about..

Snoozy

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Unconditional love?

by Snoozy in

whatever happened to "unconditional love"?.

why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.

too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.

Snoozy

Whatever happened to "unconditional Love"?

Why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them...

They claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend. Too ready to write them off so to speak.

What happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times....

I don't get it..

I guess "Unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore. It's all about the "Me" generation.

Snoozy..who will always have unconditional love ...