Spectromize - with all due respect, if the JW faith was based upon christianity & truth the question you pose may be an issue, however, the the JW faith is based upon devotion to fictions composed by a rather small group of 12 men otherwise known as THE GOVERNING BODY. The reason the GB compose these fictions is to ensure the continuity of their power base which includes a vast Publishing and Property owning empire. These fictions are indoctrinated into the rank & file JW via endless repitition in a mentally sterile, isolated environment. The control of a JW's mind and life by the GB is mandatory under threat of expulsion. Your lawyer friend would be better off battling FOR his conscience, once he has it back off the GB then he may be able to begin battling WITH it. I would suggest that you give issues such as this far more serious concern than your question posted. happy to hear what you have to say in response-SolidSender
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Could u be a criminal lawyer and be straight as JW
by spectromize ini'm just curious to see what everyone thinks about this because i do know a brother in toronto who is a practising lawyer and knowing him somewhat i would have to say that he must battle his consience every night.
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my answer to my own question would be no!
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Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone
by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Carmel – thanks for the post. There are a couple of things you mentioned I’d like to discuss but for the moment time permits me addressing only one of them - that of the Bible not being the whole story. Let’s just say it isn’t - how much more of the story do you feel is necessary and what would it contribute above and beyond what we have at present? I see it like any story or film or play or whatever. Let me use film as an example. A film story begins and finishes at an arbitrary point in the character’s lives. The story exists within certain constraints of time, place and character – it is limited in its nature by necessity. However within these limited constraints a good storyteller can fully accomplish their intent in writing the piece, get across the moral or point or message of the story. It is not necessary for the author to include the entire history of the universe and the history of every life ever lived on the planet or elsewhere to accomplish this. A good story is as much about what is told as what isn’t told. I’m not saying that the bible is just a story but in my humble opinion Christianity is a very simple concept. If you feel that more needs to be added to this concept or has been left out I would be very interested to hear it.-SolidSender
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Ten Greatest Movies Ever
by Seven inwhat does this have to do with being a jehovah's witness?
nothing.. the greatest movies ever made.
1. the godfather.
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My top ten would all be Porno's am I allowed to list them?-SolidSender
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Worst movies
by Zep ingeez, is there enough space?
?....how about the phantom menace, tops my list....the flintstones now that was bad, howz about g.i.
jane saw that last night what a dog of a flick....friday the 13th 2,3,4,5,6,7...the howling 1,2,3,4,5,6.....elm street 2,3,4,5,6....porky's 1,2,3 screwballs 1,2,3,4,5...batman forever the one with arnold in it anyway, munchies, ndependence day, star wars special edition...cant believe i payed money to see a few nice special effects, any pauly shore movie...well almost?, godzilla..haven't seen it yet but it'd have to be bad, ummmm....rambo 3...the list goes on!
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Hey Redhorsewoman - my kinda film. Any chance of it's title turning up?-SolidSender
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LOVE THIS QUOTE
by Zep in"if you find that you are stumbled or are offended about something being taught in god's.
organization, or some adjustments being made, keep this in mind: god has put enough in the.
bible to provide a complete foundation for faith.
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August - hi and welcome to the discussion - in answer to your question - Because he needs to control a publishing and property owning empire valued at billions of dollars plus control the minds of the millions of JW's funding this empire and its human power base. It's that simple.-SolidSender
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Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone
by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Path - very eloquently put.
My thoughts though on the question is that perhaps the real answers lie in the search for truth, and not the certainty of the answers themselves.
I've been thinking about this myself it seems jesus was the only true christian and even though the bible does provide us with a lot of info the best we can do is try and fill in the blanks within the outline or pattern of christian spirit.
By taking away Law and writing the Bible the way it is, we each have an opportunity to demonstrate what love and truth really mean to us individually
What can i say - this is the crux of the matter. So ridiculously simple. This is why the WTBTS ( amongst others ) is non christian.
The real reason might be that true Christianity doesn't allow for one to make money off it, or hold power or control over others
Shame about that isn't it?-SolidSender
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by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Regarding this situation where if you leave or are asked to leave the organisation then your family are not permitted to associate with you or some sort of scenario thereabouts by decree of organizational policy.
I think this is outright evil and sick it's a fatal disease. We've got a mind control cult on our hands here. Sometimes you get too close to things you can't see.
Speaking generally now I don't see how one person remaining within the mindcontrolcult is going to be able to help either themselves or those they love within it by continuing to remain under it's influence. While ever everyones in it no one stands a chance of freedom.
This is of course assuming that one wants to break free. Some don't I know, they are more than happy being part of the cult and buy into it completely without reservation. Others are nonchalant - they know it's bullshit but it doesn't worry them or doesn't seem to. If anyone reading this falls into these categories skip the rest of this post.
This cult is ruining lives and from my experience the lives of some superb people. I'm almost at a loss for words here but as long as you are participating in the WTBTS program a part of you is theirs and that part of you is very distorted, very one sided, very unbalanced, one dimensional, narrow, very brain washed/polluted/poisoned. That part of you has a worldview entirely based upon the fictions of the WTBTS. I don't claim to have any answers or to speak for anyone else but I can say that after seven years of not participating in the WTBTS program I think the healing has begun. The pendulum is starting to swing a little more around the centre. Giving myself that time space has helped pull a lot into perspective. It certainly has not been easy but I strongly recommend it to anyone who can relate to what I'm saying.
This has not meant to be a harsh critical post but a sober one.-SolidSender
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Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone
by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Frenchy - i've often given thought to this very subject, namely if jesus knew what man was going to do to man in the name of religion, bible and christianity why the hell did he give it to us? ( very simplified way of trying to explain what I mean ) Maybe he covered this in the wheat among the weed parables and similar? Back to your question though, I'm going to assume that we've established that Christianity itself is OK and that a group of people of themselves are not necessarily a negative. It seems that what we have to imagine here is unfortunately something totally foreign to our experience - true christianity. so i guess in theory it may be possible to have a group of christians as long as
they kept sight on the spirit and not the law. It's almost to simple to comprehend. jesus removed the law and hence to those who have faith in him made us all equal before God. A group of people who all consider themselves equal in this respect, that's hard to imagine - kind of leads me back to my original question - why the hell did he give us the bible if he knew all this shit was gonna happen?_SolidSender -
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by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Seven, mmmmmmmmmm that kind of christian joy – I could probably get you some for a hundred dollars a gram. Which closing comment do you mean re: the new thread?
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by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Frenchy - hi. you're getting at lifes balancing act there, to me it's part of being human to desire to belong, relate, be accepted, loved, wanted and so on but the question seems to be - at what price? Would you leave your conscience at the door for such things?-SolidSender