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  Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone

  by SolidSender in

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  no offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?

  this is not a criticism just an observation.

  i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender

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  On the where to go thought - I don't want to startle anyone here but ever considered christianity?
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  ELECTRONIC ASSOCIATION

  by SolidSender in

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  is electronic/virtual ( read: online ) association with df'd, da'd, marked, evil slave, non approved associates, apostates etc right or wrong?

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  Is electronic/virtual ( read: online ) association with DF'd, DA'd, marked, evil slave, non approved associates, apostates etc right or wrong?
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  Disassociated

  by Scorpion in

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  it has been an experience to say the least.

  i accepted eagerly the teachings of the watchower bible and tract society over the last 7 years.

  i have been a dedicated pioneer for four of those years.

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  Waiting - my sentiments as well. I can't figure out why SC would want to leave the organisation especially after Friend taking the time to expound so many fine rules to him. Most ungrateful SC!-SolidSender.
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  Writing private letters to the Society.

  by spectromize in

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  for anyone who's ever written something of a private nature or asked clarification on certain beliefs have you ever had the unfortunate experience of the elders calling you in the back room or a sheperding call ?.

  the reason i bring this out is that newer brothers or sisters don't know that everytime you write the society the society sends a copy of your letter to your local cong.

  elders.

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  Hi Waiting - you wrote

  Q)"When did Gods Love get so confused?"

  A) "When did CT Russell write the write first Watchtower?"
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  Wolfsong

  by Seven in

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  [url] http://205.178.160.247/artwork/scripts/artofwolves/wolves-individual.cfm?artworkid=157[/url]

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  Edited by - SolidSender on 1 August 2000 3:19:3
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  The Dalai Lama said it all!!!

  by Zep in

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  what attracted me to the wt....i read too many of their magazines from 15-19 basically....it almost got me buying into their stuff, but then, just when i had just started getting into it all, i stopped and dropped it with the idea that i'd look into it later.. i remember reading the book of revelation at age 15 and wondering what it meant, all those dragons and horned beasts...then i got hold of some jw literature and there it was...it was all explained, nice and simple.all those prophecies about the end time seemed so good to a kid....i mean, i never really could understand their blood doctrine but you can over look that...after all, the truth is a powerful weapon, you can make people do anything when you have "the truth"...even murder!..

  another thing attracted me to it.....they seemed not to be preaching that bad people would burn in hell for all eternity, that there was no hell, that there was going to be a resurrection of the good and bad......yeah, seems pretty good, a caring religion eh!...everyone is going to be given ample chance to learn the truth and change.

  but things change, i started questioning as i got older...gave the bible study guy a hard time with all those questions, then we had an argument and i just cut it off....decided to look at it later.... but their stuff was always in the back of my mind.. well, later is now....6 months ago i wander into h20 rather casual like, couple that with the fact that i find out a friend has fallen in with jw's and i get sucked into studying up about it all.....its very interesting.its amazing how much you chance your world view from age 19 to 27......things are all different now, jw's look like nothing more than a high control totalitarian cult with some rather wacky world views and prophecies??????????

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  waiting - hi! seeing how i was the one that started this post i assume it's me you were asking these questions:

  [*]Do people who have been in or acquainted with JW's have a shelf life they must wait out until it leaves their system?

  for me it's seven years and still waiting. though there's stuff they took from me i'll never get back.

  [*]"if life's so free and good, why are you here?"

  life is as it is. as far as why i'm here - to be this voice i guess.

  [*]"we know what's in store when we hit bottom. Reality as opposed to the dream."

  i think you'd really need to define what you mean by dream to me, it's like saying blue - without a concrete example it means different things to different people. to my mind what can be dreamed or imagined is equally as real as what exists externally. Are you using Dream as a synonym for delusion? Waiting, i'm not trying to be Friend ( really Enemy ) here i sincerely want to know what you mean-SolidSender
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  The Dalai Lama said it all!!!

  by Zep in

  1. jw
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  what attracted me to the wt....i read too many of their magazines from 15-19 basically....it almost got me buying into their stuff, but then, just when i had just started getting into it all, i stopped and dropped it with the idea that i'd look into it later.. i remember reading the book of revelation at age 15 and wondering what it meant, all those dragons and horned beasts...then i got hold of some jw literature and there it was...it was all explained, nice and simple.all those prophecies about the end time seemed so good to a kid....i mean, i never really could understand their blood doctrine but you can over look that...after all, the truth is a powerful weapon, you can make people do anything when you have "the truth"...even murder!..

  another thing attracted me to it.....they seemed not to be preaching that bad people would burn in hell for all eternity, that there was no hell, that there was going to be a resurrection of the good and bad......yeah, seems pretty good, a caring religion eh!...everyone is going to be given ample chance to learn the truth and change.

  but things change, i started questioning as i got older...gave the bible study guy a hard time with all those questions, then we had an argument and i just cut it off....decided to look at it later.... but their stuff was always in the back of my mind.. well, later is now....6 months ago i wander into h20 rather casual like, couple that with the fact that i find out a friend has fallen in with jw's and i get sucked into studying up about it all.....its very interesting.its amazing how much you chance your world view from age 19 to 27......things are all different now, jw's look like nothing more than a high control totalitarian cult with some rather wacky world views and prophecies??????????

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  typo correction on my last post - christianity is great the problem is what's done with it when it gets into the wrong hands - it seems to me.
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  The Dalai Lama said it all!!!

  by Zep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what attracted me to the wt....i read too many of their magazines from 15-19 basically....it almost got me buying into their stuff, but then, just when i had just started getting into it all, i stopped and dropped it with the idea that i'd look into it later.. i remember reading the book of revelation at age 15 and wondering what it meant, all those dragons and horned beasts...then i got hold of some jw literature and there it was...it was all explained, nice and simple.all those prophecies about the end time seemed so good to a kid....i mean, i never really could understand their blood doctrine but you can over look that...after all, the truth is a powerful weapon, you can make people do anything when you have "the truth"...even murder!..

  another thing attracted me to it.....they seemed not to be preaching that bad people would burn in hell for all eternity, that there was no hell, that there was going to be a resurrection of the good and bad......yeah, seems pretty good, a caring religion eh!...everyone is going to be given ample chance to learn the truth and change.

  but things change, i started questioning as i got older...gave the bible study guy a hard time with all those questions, then we had an argument and i just cut it off....decided to look at it later.... but their stuff was always in the back of my mind.. well, later is now....6 months ago i wander into h20 rather casual like, couple that with the fact that i find out a friend has fallen in with jw's and i get sucked into studying up about it all.....its very interesting.its amazing how much you chance your world view from age 19 to 27......things are all different now, jw's look like nothing more than a high control totalitarian cult with some rather wacky world views and prophecies??????????

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  zep - good post, however i feel christianity is just as simple as the Dl quote. christianity is great the problem is what's down with it when it gets into the wrong hands - it seems to me.
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  New System Conundrum

  by RedhorseWoman in

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  does everyone remember the wt stating that in the new system, after everyone has been resurrected, there will be at least one acre per person?.

  didn't that seem like a lot of space to you?

  i know it did to me, growing up in a typical suburban neighborhood.

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  There's plenty of sex after death. You just can't feel it. -Lily Tomlin
  hey, i remember hearing this one somewhere before and am still trying to figure out whether she meant metaphorical or literal death?
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  Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone

  by SolidSender in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?

  this is not a criticism just an observation.

  i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender

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  Frenchy - thanks for taking the time to write. I read your poems and writings very reminiscent of Byron or thereabouts I dig the over the top love angst direction of it all. A few questions regarding your post, how would you define this "dream" of yours you mentioned in your post? Granted that it’s not easy to walk away from the WTBTS so does that mean you never do? Is there a cut off point? I can tell you right now that there’s parts of the emotional me lost forever as a result of association with the WTBS that would really come in handy now if I still had them, so it goes. You said “Most people have a difficult time extracting themselves from the dream” from the dream or the reality? Finally in regard to your comments about Jesus and freedom, is freedom a synonym for happiness? I’m asking a lot of questions I know and in response to sevenofnines question on research, no I’m not I just like trying to get inside peoples headspace, see things their way more clearly.-SolidSender