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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

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in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Now the timeline of Jesus Death and Resurrection is important in this timeline.

The Birth of Jesus was in 3 BC and the Death and Resurrection was in 31 AD. This is important because a few things intersect at the time in the year of the Resurrection. We have to have correlation to the 70 AD destruction, correlation to the Jubilees, correlation to the 70 weeks Prophecy and correlation to the Festivals and to the Exodus timeline. While it is highly disputed one when the year of the resurrection and the Birth of Jesus was it really shouldn't be when we analyze the data.

Jesus was born during the Feast of Lights in 3 BC. And was crucified on the Jewish day beginning on March 25th (Julian) of 31 AD. We have a lot of good evidence for these dates.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

For those that don't believe you could see the moon that morning of May 4th in -511 (512 B.C.E), the moon was illuminated 3% with a magnitude of -5.17 which is clearly in the visible range.

The 2nd month in -567 was illuminated 0.9% on first crescent at evening observance on May 21st with a Magnitude of -4.18.

In other words, the moon was more visible during their morning observation for the 2nd month in -511 then the evening observance was in -567. Again, this is why the moon would have been thick in -511 when the evening observance came.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Again, on line 8:

8. On the 1st of Airu (Nisan had 30d ), while the sun still stood there, the moon became visible 4 cubits below the western rearward star of the Great Twins; it was wide, wore the tiara [ ... ].

The sun still stood there is a reference that the moon was spotted after sunrise. This observation would have taken place in the morning. But in -567 the moon is not luminated at sunrise. Therefore, there is no way they could determine that morning to be first crescent. But in -511 the crescent is illuminated in the observation at moon rise after sunrise. That is why later in the day as it drifts even further away from the sun that it becomes THICK during the evening observation.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Again, 568 (-567) doesn't conform. Never said that Mercury didn't set. And the moon is not thick. Also, in 959 B.C.E, for the Israelites, their 7th month wouldn't be in November but on 9/19 would be the beginning of the first night of the month. Also, of course Mars was nowhere near Praesepe in -511. That is because N/W named Praesepe based on what they saw in -567. They didn't use Praesepe to find the year. They use the year to find Praesepe.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Also, I often use the term BC instead of B.C.E. Please substitute B.C.E for BC. It is a habit I'm sure I'll persist in. As you know the designation of BC is considered "Before Christ". But that would only be the case if BC was really before Christ. The birth of Jesus was in 3 B.C.E so BC is not technically before Him.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Going to respond to the two things that Jeffro stated. Dont' get use to me responding to him/her because I don't typically respond to spirits of opposition but for the sake of the readers and to them I'll respond. Don't confuse the completion of the temple with the year in which it is dedicated. The year the Temple was finished being built (not furnished) was completed in the 8th month. Let's remember the dedication occurred in the 7th month. And then in that month would the new year declared for the Jubilee also on the Day of Atonement. Obviously, you can see that the Dedication was not in the year of the completion of building the Temple.

Now for Praesepe, this one is rather simple because its the cart before the horse situation. Did the astronomy lead the astronomer to the year? - likely it did but the wrong year in that. So then they let the year lead them to the astronomy and used the year to identify what they didn't understand. This is fact. I don't have a problem with this method, it makes sense. The only way in which that can fail is if you get the year wrong. Which they did. In fact, in N & W they admit it:

'Praesepe‟s position is given as i Cancri. i Cancri is in the eastern part of Praesepe. The match is so outstanding, that the new, important correspondence Nangaru = Praesepe can be regarded as certain.'

You can see from above that they simply looked at where Mars was and concluded it is in Praesepe and then let that be the NEW meaning of Nangaru.

Let's remember that moon doesn't line up for them as they claim. Even in line 8 of N/W they claim that Mercury set. They would never have seen Mercury set as it set IN the brightness of the sun. However in -511 (May 4th, 512 B.C.E). We do see Mercury set just before the moon on its evening observation and the moon is thick.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Found this video: I'm guessing it belongs to the same guy from the link that jojo posted since they both said that Xerxes and ArtaXerxes are the same person:

VAT4956 - POINTING TO 511 BCE (youtube.com)

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Ok, been reading through more of that link that Jojo posted. I'm not analyzing any of their astronomical findings just yet though I already encountered some of the same things mentioned in that regard. But in the narrative surrounding their timeline they mentioned that the 70 weeks started in the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar. I disagree with this. After the Temple was destroyed and Judah's king was killed there was no longer a king over the House of Judah. At that point, the captain of the guard was the overlord of the area. Additionally, at that time the land was enjoying its rest. This is evidence because the people that were left behind (not deported) were the poor.

Exo_23:11 But the seventh year thou shalt let it rest and lie still; that the poor of thy people may eat: and what they leave the beasts of the field shall eat. In like manner thou shalt deal with thy vineyard, and with thy oliveyard.

2Ki 25:12 But the captain of the guard left of the poor of the land to be vinedressers and husbandmen.

So the fact that the poor were left is not a disqualifier of it being the time of the 70 years but a confirmation that the time had started. Leviticus 26 is really fulfilled in what happened thereafter in that 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

joey jojo:

This is another thread claiming 511 is the right date. Is this jwposter under an another name?

Thank you for posting that link. It is not me and I didn't even know about the VAT until recently and that post looks like it said 21 years ago. I only skimmed through it but they did mention they concluded that the 37th year was a match to 511 BC. Not sure if they were using the astronomical year or the actual year but I assume it had to be the astronomical year. Also, they said something about the 70 weeks coming to 29 AD or something. I disagree with that. The 70 weeks take you to the cross. I think people use 29 AD because they believe the quote from Isaiah is a Jubilee reference. Many of those people believe in a 3.5 year ministry of Christ of which I do not. I'm going to read it further. There is some manipulation in the findings from the the original analysis from N & W that I speak about it bit soon.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

I have Isaac born in 1910 BC. Which is year 1980 of creation (Book of Jubilees) This is 430 years before the Exodus (book of Jubilees) I have him at 30 years old when he is offered for sacrifice or 400 years before the Exodus (Based on Book of Jubilees and Acts 13). I have the capture of the lands and dividing at 50 years after the Exodus (Acts 13).