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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

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in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Also, for those that are studying the timeline that I provided. A big help to you will be the Book of Jubilees. The Book of Jubilees is one of the oldest ancient books which the Jews observed and found in Qumran and part among the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Book of Jubilees (as its name implies), tracks down time by Jubilees. This is really something we should all be doing. To understand how the time is tracked in the book is like this:

Time are given based on the cycle of the Jubilee they are in. Therefore, day one of Adam would be already in the 1st Jubilee though the Jubilee has not yet been declared. Then the time is referred to in weeks of years. Therefore, the 1st. Jubilee 2nd week 3rd year would be equivalent to 7 + 3 = 10th year.

And let's do another: 30th Jubilee 4th week 2nd year. Understand that a Jubilee = 50 years but the cycle is 49 years because the 50th year is also the 1st year in the next cycle.

So 30th Jubilee would we take 29 * 49 (because we can use 30 because that cycle is not complete) + 3 * 7 (because we can't use 4 for the week because that week is not completed) + 2 (for the 2nd year above).

(29 * 49) + ( 3 * 7) + 2 = 1444th year from the days of Adam.

By using that means of calculation, you can easily read the Book of Jubilees.

Now the Book of Jubilees shows that the 50th Jubilee was at the crossing of the Jordan. We know that is 40 years after the Exodus. So this tells you that 1 Kings 6:1 where it mentions the 480 years is not from the Beginning of the Exodus but from the End of the Exodus. We know this because the dedication of the Temple is in the 60th Jubilee. Therefore, 10 Jubilees = 490 years. You may have seen that number before if you studied Daniels 70 weeks because his prophecy is a 10 Jubilee prophecy. It is on this 50th, 60th, 70th, 80th, etc. (the tens) that significant events in Biblical history occur. This also tells you exactly where to find a Jubilee. Jesus was crucified in 31 AD, this means that year would be a declaration of a Jubilee in the 7th month (80th).

Now since the Temple was dedicated in 950 BC, we can see that the 50th Jubilee was 490 years earlier in 1440 BC (crossing of the Jordan). We then have 40 years earlier to the Exodus in 1479. But a Pharaoh would have to have died that year for there to be any authenticity to that year. Which there was. That Pharaoh is Thutmose II. He didn't have a son to immediately take the throne. Hs wife therefore had to rule. His mummy was found and it was covered with scabrous wounds consistent with the Boil Plague. Not just his but other mummies of the time as well were covered with the same scabrous wounds.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

JWPoster:

VAT4956 Obverse Line 4:
A / H:
4: or 12th, Jupiter's acronychal rising. On the 14th, one god was seen with the other; sunrise to moonset: 4o.
The 15th, overcast. The 16th, Venus [ .... ]
N / W:
4. or the 12th Jupiter apparently rose acronychally. On the 14th, the god was visible with the god; 16m passed between sunrise and moonset on the next morning. On the 15th, it was overcast. On the 16th Venus [ ... ].
This is another demonstration of why I prefer N / W over A / H. Such a striking difference

Interestingly, the two different types of acronychal risings. The apparent acronychal rising fits more to the observation of -511. Since the apparent acronychal rising is different from a true acronychal rising (what A/H seems to convey). The apparent acronychal rising is one in which the object rises while there is to much light and can't be seen because of the brightness of the sun. That is what we see in -511 for Jupiter at that time.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

VAT4956 Obverse Line 4:

A / H:

4: or 12th, Jupiter's acronychal rising. On the 14th, one god was seen with the other; sunrise to moonset: 4o.

The 15th, overcast. The 16th, Venus [ .... ]

N / W:

4. or the 12th Jupiter apparently rose acronychally. On the 14th, the god was visible with the god; 16m passed between sunrise and moonset on the next morning. On the 15th, it was overcast. On the 16th Venus [ ... ].

This is another demonstration of why I prefer N / W over A / H. Such a striking difference.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Also, check this link. It shows that the work on the Temple BEGAN in 959 BC. It was dedicated in 950 BC. Again in accordance with the timeline I provided. And the death of Solomon also recorded in this link is also in sync with my timeline:

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.2307/3218801?journalCode=basor

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

You have to realize that the dedication of Solomon's Temple was a Jubilee year. 950 BC. That was the 60th Jubilee.

If you know the former Jewish calendar it was Lunar/Solar. The Sabbaths were on the 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th of each lunar month. There were 49 lunar weeks in a year. The 70th Jubilee was in 460 BC. That was 70 years after the destruction of the Temple. That is also 490 years from 31 AD when Jesus was crucified and resurrected.

If you know the Jubilees this will become clearer to you and you wont dispute it.

The count to Pentecost (Feast of Weeks) was from the 16th of the first lunar month to the 9th day of the 3rd month. That is 7 Sabbath weeks - each week ending on a sabbath day plus 1 day to end on the first day of the week on the 2nd week in the 3rd month. Why are you counting weeks when the day you land on is always the same? - because it is teaching you to count down the Jubilees as the Jews were counting time in the Book of Jubilees. Now how many days are there from the 9th day of the 3rd month to the Day of Atonement - when the Jubilee is heralded? - 120 days. (do the math - 9th day to end of 3rd month is 21 days. + (3 * 29.5 for months 4-6) + 10.5 days to the Day of Atonement (10th day of the 7th month). = 120 days.

Now how do you know the day that the Temple was destroyed was on the 60th Jubilee? Because you can count from the 9th day of the 3rd month to the 10th day of the 5th month and that is 60 days.

Then you have the following:

Hag 1:1 In the second year of Darius the king, in the sixth month, in the first day of the month, came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, saying,

So if you count to that time from the 9th of the 3rd month you will see that is the 80th day. So that decree from Darius (which is part of the fulfillment of the 70 weeks of Daniel) will take you to the 80th Jubilee. But we should already know this because Moses said a prophet like until him would come and Paul confirms that Prophet was Christ. Moses began that ministry at 80 years old signaling the 80th Jubilee and died at 120 years old signaling that Jesus would lead his congregation for 40 Jubilee years beginning in the 80th Jubilee (declared in 31 AD) unto the 120th (declared in 1991). But man gets the 120 Jubilees (Genesis 6:3). So He returns in the 121st Jubilee - Sept of 2040 (go look up the Astronomy in Virgo in Sept of 2040 what do you see and when? What is significant about that time of the year? (Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, etc..). You SEE? Can you SEE?

Once you do, the VAT will take on a new perspective that hopefully you will understand as I do.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Chronology alone settles the issue of whether there can be a a destruction of the temple in 586/585 BC and therefore the idea that the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar could be in 568, BC.

Solomon's Temple was dedicated in 950 BC. This alone eliminates the possibility that the VAT can refer to 568 BC.

You have to remember, there are the remaining years of Solomons Reign which approx 28 more years. Then you have the 390 years of the Kings as spoken of by Ezekiel 4. And about 3 years in between before the House of Judah departed. So in all about 420 years from the Dedication of the Temple to its destruction.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

I also want to say that I give more weight to the original Neugebauer and Weidner translation than I do to the Sachs and Hunger translation. The reason for this is nothing against the expertise of the latter but because I believe once the dates of the Neo Babylonian era were affixed where they are accepted today as roughly 626-539 BC that the astronomical analysis would be looked at from those years to further define some of the lesser understood cuneiform signs. Nothing wrong with that approach, in fact, it is necessary but leads to errors when this is done against the wrong years and the longer those years are used to create the dataset used for the analysis is in the wild, the longer the actual facts may allude us as the datasets derived from that analysis is further extended with errors.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Sorry been busy. I have not had much time and wont have much time for the couple days or so. However, just catching up a bit. So I went in to Stellarium this morning and had a screenshot still sitting in my snipping tool I posted when discussing the subject of "front of", "behind" etc.. I notice that I was not presenting the correct information on what front of and behind is on some of the posts. So from now on I'm going to make a habit of verifying my view first. I'll believe I flipped the ecliptic and when I took the marking off for the screenshot was lazy about the verification.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

“Behind”: the Akkadian word, arki, is abbreviated to ar2. The directions “behind” and “in front of” are defined in relation to the daily rotation of the sky which proceeds from east to west for an observer in the northern hemisphere, i.e. “behind” is “to the east of”, and “in front of” is “to the west of”.

Notice above this is from the OBSERVERS point of reference. Anyone in their astronomy program can see in the northern hemisphere by simply clicking the days forward will see the constellations move from east to west just as described above. And this Front and Behind designation is from the observers point of view.

This obviously causes problems for the -567 adherents. Again, they are caught in a problem when on the First day of the month that in -567 the moon is in Front of and not behind Taurus while at the SAME time Saturn is behind the Swallow.

Swallow is part of Pisces but not Piscis_Austrinus which is the original designation in line 2.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

jwposter

Southern fish was the name for Piscis_Austrinus in the original translation of the VAT and preceded the change later to the Swallow. Here is from the original translated to English by Ann O'Maly

2. Saturn opposite the southern Fish of the Zodiac. On the morning of the 2 nd , a

rainbow formed an arc in the west. On the night of the 3 rd , the moon 2 cubits in front

of [...].

Reference:

Ein astronomischer Beobachtungstext aus dem 37. Jahre

Nebukadnezars II (-567/66)

By Paul V. Neugebauer and Ernst F. Weidner.