Also, I often use the term BC instead of B.C.E. Please substitute B.C.E for BC. It is a habit I'm sure I'll persist in. As you know the designation of BC is considered "Before Christ". But that would only be the case if BC was really before Christ. The birth of Jesus was in 3 B.C.E so BC is not technically before Him.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Going to respond to the two things that Jeffro stated. Dont' get use to me responding to him/her because I don't typically respond to spirits of opposition but for the sake of the readers and to them I'll respond. Don't confuse the completion of the temple with the year in which it is dedicated. The year the Temple was finished being built (not furnished) was completed in the 8th month. Let's remember the dedication occurred in the 7th month. And then in that month would the new year declared for the Jubilee also on the Day of Atonement. Obviously, you can see that the Dedication was not in the year of the completion of building the Temple.
Now for Praesepe, this one is rather simple because its the cart before the horse situation. Did the astronomy lead the astronomer to the year? - likely it did but the wrong year in that. So then they let the year lead them to the astronomy and used the year to identify what they didn't understand. This is fact. I don't have a problem with this method, it makes sense. The only way in which that can fail is if you get the year wrong. Which they did. In fact, in N & W they admit it:
'Praesepe‟s position is given as i Cancri. i Cancri is in the eastern part of Praesepe. The match is so outstanding, that the new, important correspondence Nangaru = Praesepe can be regarded as certain.'
You can see from above that they simply looked at where Mars was and concluded it is in Praesepe and then let that be the NEW meaning of Nangaru.
Let's remember that moon doesn't line up for them as they claim. Even in line 8 of N/W they claim that Mercury set. They would never have seen Mercury set as it set IN the brightness of the sun. However in -511 (May 4th, 512 B.C.E). We do see Mercury set just before the moon on its evening observation and the moon is thick.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Found this video: I'm guessing it belongs to the same guy from the link that jojo posted since they both said that Xerxes and ArtaXerxes are the same person:
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Ok, been reading through more of that link that Jojo posted. I'm not analyzing any of their astronomical findings just yet though I already encountered some of the same things mentioned in that regard. But in the narrative surrounding their timeline they mentioned that the 70 weeks started in the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar. I disagree with this. After the Temple was destroyed and Judah's king was killed there was no longer a king over the House of Judah. At that point, the captain of the guard was the overlord of the area. Additionally, at that time the land was enjoying its rest. This is evidence because the people that were left behind (not deported) were the poor.
Exo_23:11 But the seventh year thou shalt let it rest and lie still; that the poor of thy people may eat: and what they leave the beasts of the field shall eat. In like manner thou shalt deal with thy vineyard, and with thy oliveyard.
2Ki 25:12 But the captain of the guard left of the poor of the land to be vinedressers and husbandmen.
So the fact that the poor were left is not a disqualifier of it being the time of the 70 years but a confirmation that the time had started. Leviticus 26 is really fulfilled in what happened thereafter in that 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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joey jojo:
This is another thread claiming 511 is the right date. Is this jwposter under an another name?
Thank you for posting that link. It is not me and I didn't even know about the VAT until recently and that post looks like it said 21 years ago. I only skimmed through it but they did mention they concluded that the 37th year was a match to 511 BC. Not sure if they were using the astronomical year or the actual year but I assume it had to be the astronomical year. Also, they said something about the 70 weeks coming to 29 AD or something. I disagree with that. The 70 weeks take you to the cross. I think people use 29 AD because they believe the quote from Isaiah is a Jubilee reference. Many of those people believe in a 3.5 year ministry of Christ of which I do not. I'm going to read it further. There is some manipulation in the findings from the the original analysis from N & W that I speak about it bit soon. -
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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I have Isaac born in 1910 BC. Which is year 1980 of creation (Book of Jubilees) This is 430 years before the Exodus (book of Jubilees) I have him at 30 years old when he is offered for sacrifice or 400 years before the Exodus (Based on Book of Jubilees and Acts 13). I have the capture of the lands and dividing at 50 years after the Exodus (Acts 13).
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Another observation in the translations of the VAT:
N/W:
9. Saturn opposite the southern Fish of the Zodiac. Mercury, which had set heliacally, was not visible. On the night of the 1st, a violent (?) storm from the south-east. On the 1st, the whole day [ ... ].
A/H:
9: Saturn was in front of the Swallow; Mercury, which had set, was not visible. Night of the 1st, gusty stormfrom east and south. The 1st, all day [ .... ]
This is a section where N/W is leading us a bit. In the A/H is more accurate to the transliteration. There is no heliacal reference in the transliteration.
The fact that Mercury is mentioned here is likely because it is in the observation of the moon at this time. The moon is observed on the horizon in the west. At that time in -511, Mercury would have just set.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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We have to remember that the week is referencing 6000 years of rule for man. (Epistle of Barnabas).
We have Peter saying that a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day.
But we have Jubilees and in them while there are 6000 years, the time is 5880 years for that time because every 50th is also the 1st year in the next cycle. So a Day is the "Week" of time is 980 years (980 * 6) = 5880 years.
Now Adam when He sinned was to die in the day that he sinned of which he did as he died at 930 years. He couldn't die at 931 years or more because then he would have entered the cycle of the Jubilee that ends at the next day of the "Week" of time. Therefore, he died one jubilee short of the 980 years (980 - 1 jubilee = 930 years).
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Another piece that must align is the Course of the Priests. We know that from 1st Temple to the 2nd Temple the 24 course of the priests served in their orders and Josephus says that chain was not broken. We know that the first course was present serving during the temple destruction both times. We also know the 8th course was present on the Day of Atonement being served by Zacharias when he was given the instructions that Elizabeth would conceive a child. All of these have to line up with the years.
Therefore, you don't just have to have the Chronologies line up, but you have to have the Sabbatical years line up, the Jubilees line up, the 24 Courses of the Priests must line up. My Timeline does that.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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Obviously we need to align the Sabbatical year and the Jubilee years. The year of the destruction of the Temple was a Sabbatical year. That is a big deal. Since the Dedication of the Temple was a Jubilee year then the sabbatical years must align to the year of the destruction. Since the destruction of the Temple we can see an alignment. 950 BC - 530 BC = 420. 420 / 7 = 60. No remainder. We have alignment.