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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

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  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  @KalebOutWest

  Please excuse Jeffro for crying foul against LunarSabbaths. He/She doesn't accept this information from antiquity. But I do appreciate it.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  KalebOutWest:

  So all this arguing over Vat 4956 is useless.
  

  I initiated my post to this forum for the purpose of showing that the 1914 idea is defeated by VAT4956. But my purpose for VAT4956 comparison is beyond the JWs. It speaks to additional evidence that the -511 (512 BCE) is the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar and therefore is showing further the timeline that academia is using is wrong for the Neo Babylonian era.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  @KalebOutWest

  I agree with a lot of what you stated there. However, I do not believe that that the Sabbath was only observed on the 15th of the month previously but believe from the beginning it was always observed on those phases of the moon. I know the Jewish Encyclopedia may say differently but that is what my research has shown.

  Also, I do believe those sabbaths continued according to the phases of the moon at the time of the Lord Jesus in the first century AD and that the 24 courses of the Priests continued to rotate according to those Sabbaths even to the time of the destruction of the 2nd Temple as Josephus reported.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  I never said anything about there being no coregencies or that there were coregencies.
  
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  Jeffro:

  But that doesn’t say anything at all about the people of Israel. I should have specified that it says nothing relevant. (I fully accept the blame for thinking you would understand.) The 390 days isn’t about the people of Judah at all, much less its king.
  

  Yes, it is referring to the people as well. See this verse:

  2Ch 12:1 And it came to pass, when Rehoboam had established the kingdom, and had strengthened himself, he forsook the law of the LORD, and all Israel with him.

  And BTW, I'm not trying to lay blame. I'm trying to edify and be edified.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  Jeffro:

  Nonsense. Gill tries that trick, but the Bible says nothing about Rehoboam's fourth year (nor of Jeroboam I).

  Read all your Bible. Don't just hunt and peck.

  2Ch 11:17 So they strengthened the kingdom of Judah, and made Rehoboam the son of Solomon strong, three years: for three years they walked in the way of David and Solomon.

  As you can see the inequity came after the three years of Rehoboam.

  Your getting schooled here.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  Right is about 393.5 years because the iniquity of Solomon's son didn't occur until after the 3rd year but the 390 years are for the iniquity so it would be 390 years.

  Let's read together:

  2Ki 25:8 And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month, which is the nineteenth year of king Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, a servant of the king of Babylon, unto Jerusalem:

  2Ki 25:9 And he burnt the house of the LORD, and the king's house, and all the houses of Jerusalem, and every great man's house burnt he with fire.

  2Ki 25:10 And all the army of the Chaldees, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down the walls of Jerusalem round about.

  So when was the Temple and Jerusalem destroyed? - Answer - 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar.

  And who was the king at the time? - Zedekiah (See earlier verses)

  And who was Zedekiah? - he was the last king to serve of the 390 years reigns of the kings of Judah.

  Do you see now that the destruction was at the 390th year and that year was the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar?

  Hopefully, you see that now - I mean that sincerely. I want you to get this right.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  LOL, Jeffo, you can easily settle this. Go read the Bible and count the years of the Reigns. Its there. Go count it. It is 390 years AFTER the reign of Solomon.

  Again, lets look at the facts, YOU stated that 959 BCE was the time of the completion of the Temple.

  Regardless of when you think the 70 years occurred, your problem is still the following:

  959 - 28 (remaining years of Solomon) = 931 BCE

  931 BCE - 390 = 541 BCE. So that would mean that the 19th year is right at or around 541BCE. And that would again mean that 18 years later would be 523 BCE for the 37th year. So your support of -567 (568 BCE) for VAT4956 is sunk.

  You obviously don't know enough to argue against a Bible timeline. But will me schooling you here, you may be able to in the future.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  Jeffro:

  It’s not a matter of being alive. The information is thoroughly outdated, not to mention theologically biased.
  

  The information is outdated? Well are you now saying that you can't count the reigns of the House of Judah because you need some some updated counting? Did the length of their reigns change? Do you suspect they changed? How ridiculous. And yes, you did change your timeline. You were at one point supporting your position with 390 years of the chronology of House of Judah with somehow an overlapping 70 years of captivity and then you wanted to support your position using a Septuagint shorter rendering of the Chronology.

  Now we have this from Jethro:

  They really weren’t. The land was fallow for 49 years as (retroactively) prescribed in Leviticus (though in reality parts of Judea remained populated through the entire period), from the destruction of Jerusalem in 587 BCE until the return in 538 BCE. See also Leviticus 25:8; 26:28, 32-35.
  

  I can keep schooling you as it appears you want me to do. The land is to lay fallow for Sabbatical and Jubilee years.

  1Es 1:56 And as for her glorious things, they never ceased till they had consumed and brought them all to nought: and the people that were not slain with the sword he carried unto Babylon:

  1Es 1:57 Who became servants to him and his children, till the Persians reigned, to fulfil the word of the Lord spoken by the mouth of Jeremy:

  1Es 1:58 Until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths, the whole time of her desolation shall she rest, until the full term of seventy years.
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  VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

  by jwposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

  i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

  i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

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  jwposter

  See now Jeffro is trying to change his timeline to get stuff to fit better by using the Septuagint when he/she already was using 390 years in their rebuttal. Apparently that failed so bad as I called it out and now they are looking for an out.

  Jeffro:

  Good grief. Already covered here. Your interpretation of Jeremiah 29:10 is nonsensical. Like the JW position, your interpretation of Jeremiah 29:10-14 requires that attention was given to the Jews’ return only after they were already there, which is clearly absurd
  

  
  

  See the desperation in trying to get out of your position. Let me school you more. The 70 years of captivity were a year for each year that the land didn't lay fallow. Therefore, if the Jews didn't return to the land after the 70 years then the punishment would have been longer because the land would still be laying fallow as long as the Jews did not have the land. Therefore, the Jews 70 years of captivity had to result in the immediate return to the land. Therefore, your absurd remarks are showing how deep the crater of your ignorance is.