Trust me KalebOutWest, Jeffro, will not turn on anyone that is against me at this time. He/she needs as many people to support their position (to help support the other fallacies he/she keeps putting forward). In the end, anyone supporting Jeffro, will be wrong. I've already supported the fact that Philo of Alexandria, a contemporary of Jesus Christ IN THE 2ND TEMPLE PERIOD, had wrote about the comparison of the Sabbath to the Festivals and phases of the moon. Additionally, Josephus reported that the course of the Priests continued unto the 2nd Temple destruction with their cycles unbroken (which would not be possible had the Sabbaths aligned to the Solar Week).
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
Me and KalebOutWest for the most part have the same information on Lunar Sabbaths in antiquity. I don't see where Jeffro has shown any distinction from what I have wrote compared to what Kaleb has stated.
I'm sorry to say this KalebOutWest but you caught in the hate beam exhibited by the soul of Jeffro. Hopefully, she continues to make amends to you.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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@KalebOutWest
Please excuse Jeffro for crying foul against LunarSabbaths. He/She doesn't accept this information from antiquity. But I do appreciate it.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
KalebOutWest:
So all this arguing over Vat 4956 is useless.
I initiated my post to this forum for the purpose of showing that the 1914 idea is defeated by VAT4956. But my purpose for VAT4956 comparison is beyond the JWs. It speaks to additional evidence that the -511 (512 BCE) is the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar and therefore is showing further the timeline that academia is using is wrong for the Neo Babylonian era. -
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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@KalebOutWest
I agree with a lot of what you stated there. However, I do not believe that that the Sabbath was only observed on the 15th of the month previously but believe from the beginning it was always observed on those phases of the moon. I know the Jewish Encyclopedia may say differently but that is what my research has shown.
Also, I do believe those sabbaths continued according to the phases of the moon at the time of the Lord Jesus in the first century AD and that the 24 courses of the Priests continued to rotate according to those Sabbaths even to the time of the destruction of the 2nd Temple as Josephus reported.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
I never said anything about there being no coregencies or that there were coregencies.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
Jeffro:
But that doesn’t say anything at all about the people of Israel. I should have specified that it says nothing relevant. (I fully accept the blame for thinking you would understand.) The 390 days isn’t about the people of Judah at all, much less its king.
Yes, it is referring to the people as well. See this verse:2Ch 12:1 And it came to pass, when Rehoboam had established the kingdom, and had strengthened himself, he forsook the law of the LORD, and all Israel with him.
And BTW, I'm not trying to lay blame. I'm trying to edify and be edified.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
Jeffro:
Nonsense. Gill tries that trick, but the Bible says nothing about Rehoboam's fourth year (nor of Jeroboam I).
Read all your Bible. Don't just hunt and peck.
2Ch 11:17 So they strengthened the kingdom of Judah, and made Rehoboam the son of Solomon strong, three years: for three years they walked in the way of David and Solomon.
As you can see the inequity came after the three years of Rehoboam.
Your getting schooled here.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
Right is about 393.5 years because the iniquity of Solomon's son didn't occur until after the 3rd year but the 390 years are for the iniquity so it would be 390 years.
Let's read together:
2Ki 25:8 And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month, which is the nineteenth year of king Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, a servant of the king of Babylon, unto Jerusalem:
2Ki 25:9 And he burnt the house of the LORD, and the king's house, and all the houses of Jerusalem, and every great man's house burnt he with fire.
2Ki 25:10 And all the army of the Chaldees, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down the walls of Jerusalem round about.
So when was the Temple and Jerusalem destroyed? - Answer - 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar.
And who was the king at the time? - Zedekiah (See earlier verses)
And who was Zedekiah? - he was the last king to serve of the 390 years reigns of the kings of Judah.
Do you see now that the destruction was at the 390th year and that year was the 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar?
Hopefully, you see that now - I mean that sincerely. I want you to get this right.
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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar
by jwposter inin my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
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jwposter
LOL, Jeffo, you can easily settle this. Go read the Bible and count the years of the Reigns. Its there. Go count it. It is 390 years AFTER the reign of Solomon.
Again, lets look at the facts, YOU stated that 959 BCE was the time of the completion of the Temple.
Regardless of when you think the 70 years occurred, your problem is still the following:
959 - 28 (remaining years of Solomon) = 931 BCE
931 BCE - 390 = 541 BCE. So that would mean that the 19th year is right at or around 541BCE. And that would again mean that 18 years later would be 523 BCE for the 37th year. So your support of -567 (568 BCE) for VAT4956 is sunk.
You obviously don't know enough to argue against a Bible timeline. But will me schooling you here, you may be able to in the future.