Posts by pometerre21

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Blood Card Issue

by pometerre21 in

i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

pometerre21

so what are the elders likely to do if you decline their offer ?

I'm not actually sure what will happen.

Why rock the boat unnecessarily. Hide the new blood card and make an "I accept blood card" for your wallet with blood type etc. and signature.

I'm just worried that in an emergency they will have this on file and will come to speak for me and deny me blood. Would an "I accept blood" card be legally binding over the PoA? I was thinking of making a post-dated document that stated the following:

"I, Pometerre21, being of sound mind and judgment on this day March 3, 2018, do hereby declare any previous medical Power of Attorney documents to be null and void. In the event that I require a life-saving medical treatment involving the use of whole blood or its parts, I will accept. Please disregard any documents of power of attorney before this date."

And then keeping something of the above in my wallet in lieu of my death warrant blood card. Would I have to get someone to witness me signing the above?

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2018-List Of Publications Approved For Discard!

by Atlantis in

copy & paste;.

atlantis listed only one form which is the s-60-e--2/18, but there are several items in the zipped folder.. .

2018 list of publications approved for discard.

pometerre21

Even if this is just library management, it's still suspicious. "Worldly" libraries don't just throw out old books when something newer comes along. And they do say "discard," Meaning to throw away...not for people to keep what they want from it.

How can elders do this and not even question it?

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Blood Card Issue

by pometerre21 in

i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

pometerre21

Please tell us what State or country in which you live.

I live in the United States. I don't want to get too specfic because of WT spies or anything. The elder actually wanted to be the one to witness me signing these new cards and whatnot. I'll try to stall...I really don't want this on file at the KH. I would want a postdated card to be perfectly legal in an emergency. Would I have to get someone to witness me signing such a document stating that I would take a blood transfusion?

If I don't carry a blood card but I have my ID and I do get into a medical emergency, can they give me blood if they don't find that DPA on me? Say I was brought to the ER and needed blood, do they really need to call anyone before they administer blood?

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Blood Card Issue

by pometerre21 in

i posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.

so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.

i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.

pometerre21

Hello all,

I posted this on r/exjw, but I thought I might post it here as well.

So the elders in our KH are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file. I really need to not rock the boat in my current PIMO status because of circumstances.

My cousin knows I have doubts about the blood thing, but I can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me. It’s a weird set of circumstances I have.

If I were to go through with signing a blood card, would putting my blood type on my license be enough to invalidate that? (In addition to not carrying the card on me).

In an emergency, if the blood card isn’t found on the person, will a hospital give you blood to save your life? Or would they have to contact someone first?

Is it mandatory that these cards be kept on file at the KH? Do I have the right to refuse this? I'm trying to think of a way to respectfully decline to have my card on file with them that doesn't raise any red flags. Any advice for this?

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Accept Evolution?

by jukief in

by evolution or by creation?

"the bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".

pometerre21

Bizarrely , they accept evolution at a vastly faster speed than in reality as they state all animal types on earth are derived from a few species that came out of Noah's ark. For example , they claim that the over 34,000 animal species are somehow derived from maybe 1,000 or less "kinds". Evolution on this hugely accelerated scale has never been observed and there is absolutely no evidence for it.

This is what I wanted to say. If they believe that a global flood happened in 2370 BCE, they most certainly have to accept some mutant hyper-evolution of epic proportions. There are over 91,000 species of insects in the USA alone (Source). How these different species got to where they are today would have to have been through supernatural rates of evolution or something.

Furthermore, the animals that only exist in certain places (Amazon Rainforest, Australia, Madagascar)...how the hell did they get there and only there?? Where did Noah find the room to fit all these different animals? Why do lions, tigers, bears have sharp teeth if they were supposed to be vegetarians? Why are snakes venomous? Spiders?

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What does shunning acomplish?

by poopie in

jw
friends

well in order to shun someone you must dehumanize them much like what occurred in slavery.

dehumanizing someone now allows you treat them worst then an animal.

and now you can justify ignoring them there not human anymore.

pometerre21

Besides being exactly what everyone else said it is, I find shunning to be so...childish. This is what children do. If they do not get their way or exactly what they want, they throw a tantrum. They may give the silent treatment. I can't believe how I didn't realize before how absolutely childish and immature it is. You cannot simply handle disagreements or "wrongdoing" like an adult. You have to do this cruel, inhuman, immature, abusive equivalent to modern day stoning because that's how you want to deal with things. You have to stop talking to someone until you get them to do what you want. It's like throwing a goddamned tantrum.

Besides, as I mentioned, they shun because they can't stone. I have a disfellowshipped family member, and the excuse I got for shunning them is that "If we were in Bible times, he would have been stoned." Cool. I'm so glad Satan's system decided to do away with this barbaric practice (for the most part). I'm so glad that we have an alternative to stoning because it's against the law to kill someone for their sin now. Great.

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Try Not To Vomit When You Read Todays Text

by pale.emperor in

tuesday, february 27. let the elders who preside in a fine way be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching.—1 tim.

5:17.. those related to us in the faith certainly merit honor and respect.

this is especially true of the elders who are taking the lead.

pometerre21

I also happened to read the text today for the first time in weeks...and that crap was it. The fact that they even use the word “high regard” is telling. They expect reverence just short of worship is what I got from the text. Such humility. I wonder what Jesus would think if he were real.

And yeah, the only time there was a governing body was when they had an issue. No group of men controlled the early Christians and dictated their every move. The closest to that was Paul with his damn letters.

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In one sentence, can you pinpoint a single event that woke you up?

by Brian J in

my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.

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pometerre21

Mentally, it was when the $4,000 fine article from the San Diego Reader popped up on my news feed and I started investigation the child abuse that this religion was responsible for covering up.

Emotionally, a couple of weeks after the above, I watched a video on the vestigial traits that humans have because of evolution. There was one that talked about how our ears have muscles that cause them to "perk up" or move at a sudden sound. I have always wondered about this because my ears do it. I would ask other people I knew well if their ears did this; I thought it was strange. Come to find out that there is no other reason our ears do this other than we descended from a species for which this was necessary during their hunting days. I wanted to cry when I saw that video. It seems like such a small thing, but it was such a simple, sensical answer to this tiny thing I had wondered about myself.

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Please Switch Off Your Critical Thinking

by pale.emperor in

i have an uneasy feeling inside that something is coming this year or the next.

perhaps a new big announcement that turns jwdom on it's head.. we've seen the statement in the watchtower november 15th, 2013 which said:.

watchtower november 15th, 2013 - page 20, paragraph 17.. .

pometerre21

Even when I was still mentally in, whenever they would spew this whole "obey us whether it made sense or not" I would automatically think of Jonestown. Honestly, though, I don't think it would be that crazy. This is a company after all; they're more interested in making money than killing followers if things go south for them.

I also think straight up tithing is a little too obvious. @SummerAngel said they might start charging for certain things, which I think might be a little more realistic. Maybe start charging for a JW Broadcast subscription or the new releases at the convention. You know that little box that pops up on the app for the Convention Releases? The one that says "Have you attended the 2017 convention yet?" They could put a charge on those maybe.

Due to New Light on overlapping generations, maybe they'll come up with another 1975-like situation. That overlapping generation has to die out sometime, so whether they realize it or not, they are most definitely setting a date for Armageddon. Maybe they might publish when that year is? Like the overlapping generation has to die out by 2080 or something.

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monthly broadcast "serving while raising a family"

by road to nowhere in

don't know if this a belief or scandal.

did you get the guy who had raised his family while serving?

it didn't say how he or his wife became witnesses, but;;;;;; he is a doctor, was invited to be a doc for the wt, sold out his home (at loss ((i bety)), moved, but you can be sure he didn't get a room at bethel.

pometerre21

Yup. The JWs that preach to younger ones about not going to college are all middle to older aged ones that grew up in a time where a high school diploma might have been enough to get you in to a steady job. I can't tell you how many times I have seen this. I know particularly one sister that got into an excellent government job with just a HS diploma and now she makes upwards of $80,000 a year. So of course because she did it without college, all the younger JWs can do it without college...never mind that her job description now requires a college degree.

Whenever I see those "____ Explains His Faith" I want to scream, because they are glorifying educated ones, but refuse to have their own young ones be educated. But when they need someone's convoluted "expert testimony" they'll go through the R&F to find someone who's educated to stock the bill for them. How can they villainize higher ed to young ones and then call for "expert testimony" from people who went through years and years of higher ed??