You forgot about one thing. In Jehovah's Witness theology, the analogy of a relationship between a father and a son extends only to the concept of free will and punishment. You cannot use the same analogy to justify other concepts. Sorry, Jehovah's Witnesses win.
Saename
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If Jehovah is our 'father', he would want humankind to independently govern itself
by fukitol inall parents want their children to grow up, mature, and become happily independent.
no normal father or parent would ever want to govern and rule over their children forever.. so if jehovah exists and he is a heavenly 'father' to his human progeny, and if we truly are in his image as his children, then humankind was always destined to govern itself.
if you believe in the biblical narrative, jehovah always intended to let go of his human children and let us rule ourselves when we were ready.
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Asia Bibi Blasphemy Case
by Saename inso today (just now) i heard about the asia bibi blasphemy case.
she was arrested in 2009, i believe, for blasphemy and was then sentenced to death.
as far as i know, she has not yet been executed.
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Saename
So today (just now) I heard about the Asia Bibi blasphemy case. She was arrested in 2009, I believe, for blasphemy and was then sentenced to death. As far as I know, she has not yet been executed. Her Wikipedia page still shows her status as alive, and any recent news I found are from October 13 when it was announced that the case was delayed by Pakistan Supreme Court.
I have no idea whether she is still alive after those 9 days, but I don't want to risk it. In case any of you have not heard of her, please sign the petition linked below to save her.
Asia Bibi Blasphemy Case Petition
Still, what will happen if she is released from prison? Islamists (that is, not all Muslims) in her village and in the whole country demand her death. If she is not executed, she will be murdered by those bloodthirsty beasts. So the big question is... What happens after?
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Yoga pants parade to protest a mans comments on women's wear.
by ToesUp inyoga pants parade.
i guess tight pants tony isn't the only man that needs to get a life!.
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Saename
a random 20 yr old given to pepsi and jelly donut diet coupled with 16 hours a day gaming and texting
Heresy! Coca-Cola is the only true God!
By the way, I wonder if men are going to protest, too?
Women, get your husbands out onto the streets!
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What happens to the elders?
by Worldling9 inwith so many khs closing and congos consolidating, what happens to the elders?
clearly there won't be a place for all of them.
would the older ones be the first to go, losing their long held positions of 'power'?.
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Saename
Well... Older elders were admonished to start teaching the younger ones so that they could "retire." At least it happened in my congregation before I left—that is about four months ago.
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The Debate Is Over...
by JW_Rogue infor years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.
countless books have been written going into great detail.
this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.
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Saename
Yeah... That article was really disappointing. You would've thought that Jehovah's Witnesses would be most eager to prove Jesus' existence, but in reality, they barely even scratched the surface. What really annoys me, though, is that Jehovah's Witnesses are all happy now because they think this is all the information needed to conclude whether Jesus existed. And when you try to explain to them that this article is not enough but is just too simple, they automatically call you a dangerous apostate who opposes the Governing Body. Their ignorance can at times get to you. They don't know how many facts they're missing, yet they claim to know everything about the subject.
By the way, I believe they also had one quote from a non-historian as evidence of Jesus' existence. It might have been Einstein or some other scientist. Basically, their argument was that since a smart atheist believed Jesus existed, he must have existed. The article was no doubt written by a fool with access to some type of mini-Wikipedia.
Edit: Just checked. It was Einstein's quote. And he wasn't an atheist but a pantheist.
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NEWS-JW Wife Stabbed in Kingdom Hall
by Refriedtruth infox carolina 21deputies: wife stabbed by husband at church.
whns greenville-9 minutes agogreenville county deputies said they were called to kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses at 1400 old spartanburg rd.
about 2:15 p.m. where they found ...http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/18848997/deputies-wife-stabbed-by-husband-at-church.
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Saename
Jehovah was too busy helping with the overlapping generations teaching. Sorry.
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Blood is thicker than water??
by HereIgo ini remember a co saying from the platform, " people often say blood is thicker than water.
well not in jehovah's organization" i don't know about anyone else, but it sure rubbed me the wrong way and one of the million reasons why i left!.
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Saename
I wish blood were always thicker than water, though.
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Utah Jehovah’s Witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.
a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
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Saename
recovering - A minor can not consent to sex by law?
Yup. Too bad they have their own screwed up law.
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Hilarious Radio Standup By An Ex-Witness
by pale.emperor inguys, you gotta check this out.
she explains the whole religion in a very funny way.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3#play.
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Saename
Yes, pale.emperor, my IQ is too low to recognise jokes.
By the way, I do wonder, too, whether any Jehovah's Witness heard that. I reckon many changed the radio station, thinking it was some kind of an apostate spreading lies.
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Utah Jehovah’s Witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
utah jehovah’s witnesses church forced woman to listen to audio of her rape, lawsuit says.
a woman is suing a jehovah's witnesses church in weber county after, she says, one of its instructors repeatedly raped her when she was a minor and the organization's leadership forced her to listen to an audio recording of one of the assaults.. the woman filed the lawsuit wednesday in 2nd district court, accusing the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses church in roy — as well as naming the alleged perpetrator, several church leaders and the watchtower bible and tract society (the religion's headquarters located in new york) — of knowingly allowing the "unfit" instructor to rise to a position of authority without warning members of his "dangerous propensities" and past sexual transgressions.. read more: http://www.sltrib.com/news/4465861-155/woman-sues-utah-jehovahs-witnesses-church.
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Saename
Maybe it's the guy's fetish?
Anyway, I don't understand those elders. They should rot in jail along with the rapist.