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  Evolution is a Fact #40 - What Use is Half an Eye?

  by cofty in

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  creationists often refer to the words of darwin when he pondered the evolution of the complex eye.

  he said that to suppose that the complex eye evolve by natural selection seems "absurd in the highest possible degree".

  what they always ignore is that darwin went right on in the very next sentence to propose how the eye could have evolved and that numerous gradations must exist between the simplest light detecting organs and the complex vertebrate eye.. in the 150 years since darwin published his book not only have those gradations been discovered in the natural world but the very genes that build the eye have been discovered by science.

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  Okay, I understand it now. The lens is the vitreous mass. The two are differentiated on the diagram of, say, a human eye because the lens is the zone of the vitreous mass which has a higher refractory index.
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  Evolution is a Fact #40 - What Use is Half an Eye?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  creationists often refer to the words of darwin when he pondered the evolution of the complex eye.

  he said that to suppose that the complex eye evolve by natural selection seems "absurd in the highest possible degree".

  what they always ignore is that darwin went right on in the very next sentence to propose how the eye could have evolved and that numerous gradations must exist between the simplest light detecting organs and the complex vertebrate eye.. in the 150 years since darwin published his book not only have those gradations been discovered in the natural world but the very genes that build the eye have been discovered by science.

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  cofty, so I'm reading Climbing Mount Improbable, and I'm already halfway through. Dawkins explains the evolution of the eye pretty well, but there's something I don't quite understand. According to him, the vitreous mass (vitreous gel?) can act as a lens. But the human eye has both the vitreous mass and a lens as separate parts of the organ. Does it mean that the vitreous mass can act as a lens and as a gel to separate the retina from the lens? What's the deal?
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  Creationist on their death bed

  by Coded Logic in

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  i would really like to read the thoughts of an creationist as they lie on their deathbed.

  their honest thoughts.

  their terrors.

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  scratchme1010 - You again? Ok, once again, who the fuck are you for me to even bother addressing you?

  No, it's not him again. This thread was created by Coded Logic to parrot (mock?) the troll you're referring to.
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

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  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Bad_Wolf: Therefore, God did it, eh?

  That's just one big argument from personal incredulity.
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  I met a 104 year old man today

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  i was at a mall trying on shoes and this old man is in a wheelchair near me.

  says how he thought those shoes were sharp and he had never worn brown shoes before and that he is 104 years old.

  i said no way and asked what year he was born.

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  smiddy - He was resurrected to life ,so by all accounts he should be free of the Adamic sin that condemned all of humanity to death so he should still be alive walking around among us right ?

  Nope. That's not how (any) Christians understand it. Jesus' sacrifice took place after Lazarus' death and resurrection, so he wouldn't be free of the Adamic sin.

  However, there were people who were resurrected after Jesus' sacrifice by his apostles. According to this... I suppose loophole, then, they would be free of the Adamic sin.
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  I met a 104 year old man today

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
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  i was at a mall trying on shoes and this old man is in a wheelchair near me.

  says how he thought those shoes were sharp and he had never worn brown shoes before and that he is 104 years old.

  i said no way and asked what year he was born.

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  Don't JWs teach that this generation who saw the events of 1914 had to be baptized in 1914 or before? If so, they would have to be born at least around 1904. If such is the case... they're already dead (most likely.)
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  The coordinator of cong visited me last night

  by Chook in

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  he ran into me a work and asked could he come , i said only if you're by yourself and don't wear company garb.

  3 hours later and i might as well talked to myself.

  i used every illustration and persuasive argument.

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  OUTLAW - The WBT$ needs to offer the JW`s something, they can`t pay them any less.

  Sure, but they can double the pay... 0 x 2 is still 0.
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

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  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Do you remember maybe where you and Tenacious had this conversation on evolution?
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  slimboyfat, are you a proponent of epistemological relativism? This is a vibe I'm getting, especially since cofty's comment that you would not even say that the earth is not flat because it is from the worm's point of view.

  If you're not a proponent of this view, how would you specifically define a fact?
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  Evolution is a Fact - Index of Parts 1 - 40

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  Saename

  It's possible that I'm a brain in a vat, and that none of you exist but are the product of my imagination. Should this mean that nothing I know is actually a fact?

  Similarly, all life on earth shares a common ancestor, and as far as we know, it's a fact. It's possible we're wrong, obviously, but there's no evidence to suggest that.