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  Hebrew language question?

  by Crazyguy in

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  vowel points were not added to the hebrew language until from what i have read the 10th century ad.

  so how can anyone properly translate this language and the older canaanite dialect properly?.

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  Saename

  The lack of vowel points isn't much of a problem when it comes to translation. It's only a problem when you're trying to figure out the pronunciation. Some words are indeed similar when you factor out the nikkud, such as the difference between "walk" and "walking" (halakh vs. holeykh, both being "hlk" without the vowels), but the context usually sorts it all out. In fact, Hebrew language today doesn't usually use vowel points anyway; it's usually seen only in grammar books, children's books, and the Bible.

  Note: I don't know Hebrew, so don't take my word for it. It just so happens that I was studying this topic a few weeks ago.
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  Jesus Is A Myth

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mx3un_azzi.

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  Saename

  Crazyguy, to my knowledge, Inanna isn't stripped naked because that phrasing implies that other people take her clothes off without her consent. That's not quite what happened, is it? In order to pass through the seven gates that lead to Irkalla, people had to take their clothes off as a tradition. It's not that this happened to Inanna specifically; it's that it happened to everyone, and the circumstances are much different from what we see in Jesus' story. As such, the only similarity I see is that Inanna is revived after 3 days. Other than that, everything is different. Perhaps the video points out some other similarities? I haven't watched it as I don't have 10 minutes to spare at the moment.
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  Saename

  Marvel's Daredevil is the best, folks.
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  Saename

  You can take a look at this article. I think the most persuasive arguments include "How did Noah get the animals to the ark?" and "How did Noah care for the animals on the boat?" In addition, it's worth contemplating how the hell kangaroos were supposed to walk and swim all the way up to Australia without leaving a single trace of evidence.

  If after all this someone still wants to believe in the flood, he would have to take it blindly on faith. The only answer a Christian could offer is that it was a miracle because without a miracle, it's simply impossible for the flood to be real.
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  If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. scandals

  the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..

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  Saename

  incognito2014 - If the person lives at home with the family then normal family relationships continue.

  Yes, that's true, but the exact point is that David (the lawyer who lied) never specified that and therefore misled the Supreme Court.
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  If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..

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  Saename

  If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

  You could be counseled, reproved, or even disfellowshipped for either brazen conduct (continued unnecessary association with a disfellowshipped individual) or a critical attitude towards the judicial decision of the elders (being critical of the disfellowshipping decision), both of which are reasons for judicial action as listed by Shepherd the Flock of God.

  What David Gnam said is not true. We all know that. I'm wondering, though, how (and if) David would defend his words...
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  JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  in a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.

  but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.

  any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.

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  Saename

  So I was wondering... Is the Supreme Court even aware that the lawyer in defense of the JW congregation lied during the hearing? I should think that it would be in the best interest of Randy Wall to inform the court of David's dishonesty.
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  Brian J - As was "do not encourage contacting the police but if brought up by the victim do not hinder or make them feel guilty". Immediately render spiritual assistance to the victim is simply not in the vocabulary.

  Really? That was brought up in the school? Because I remember that after the ARC there was a change that elders were supposed to explicitly encourage contacting the police... They just weren't supposed to contact the authorities themselves.

  So I suppose the Watchtower just changed the policy in theory, but in practice it's still same ol' same ol'— meaning don't contact the police, and don't encourage the victim to contact the police.
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  Non JW wife/JW husband Christmas tree debate

  by spacegirl443 in

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  2. friends

  first post here and looking for advice and help.

  sorry in advance for it being so long :(.

  i'm a happily married woman (no kids) who is a non-jw, presbyterian to be precise.

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  Saename

  You can only put up the Christmas tree in your office/spare bedroom? That seems ridiculous to me, but if it works for you... you do you, I do me.
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  In theory, can one be disfellowshipped for attempted suicide?

  by Saename in

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  2. beliefs

  so i was recently reading the reasons for disfellowshipping as listed in shepherd the flock of god.

  the handbook is available online here: https://thetruthofjehowaswittness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/jehovas-vitner.pdf.. on page 59, point #4, it lists attempted suicide as a reason for disfellowshipping.

  has it ever been removed?

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  Saename

  I don't drink coffee :>