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NoStonecutters
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Theists lumped into the same category
by Christ Alone insome members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
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Indeed, still thinking. It is not irrational to crave those things. Humans fundamentally need tradition, ritual, and structure. They give us purpose and meaning in life. They also help us focus.
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Atheism's occult roots
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NoStonecutters
First of all, let me just say that this isn’t a copy-and-paste job. These are my own conclusions. I am going to be brief and to the point. These are ideas off the top of my head. If and when the thread develops, I can expand on these arguments in greater detail.
The Enlightenment era produced an explosion of atheism, based on Pythagorean mysticism and Newtonian physics, which tends to detach moral considerations from the complexity of human life and reduce it to mere mechanical or fluid motions. Enlightenment thought has reduced purposeful nature to a nature based on “anything goes”…echoed by occultist Aleister Crowley when he proudly proclaimed “do what thou wilt.” In other words, let your passions lead you accordingly. Where this contradicts the atheist’s delusion that atheism is truly liberating is when the atheist fails to see that “liberated” men and women can and are led by their passions by external forces. In other words, those who control the stimuli can and do control the stimulated. The atheists have dumped the alleged repression of religion and replaced it with another hierarchal system of social control—the Illuminati power structure, which holds a monopoly over said stimuli.
Virtually all of the leading Enlightenment thinkers were Freemasons or occultists. The onus is on the researcher to find an Enlightenment thinker who wasn’t involved in the occult. Freemasonry is a religion, as Albert Pike stated, so what’s it all got to do with atheism? Why would Masonic religionists popularize a seemingly anti-theist point of view? The only logical answer can be atheism’s use in revolution. And whether it was during the Masonic-led French revolution or 33 rd degree Freemason Vladimir Lenin’s nihilistic communist state, atheism was instrumental in overthrowing throne and altar.
Atheism also shares a fundamental association with the occult, specifically Kabbalism. They both seek to create heaven on earth through their respective interpretations of the concept. In either scenario, the goal is to attain a god-like level of enlightenment (illumination) so that one can manipulate nature (magic) according to one’s own desires. In Kabbalism, gnosis and incantation are the vehicles by which to bring heaven; in atheism, gnosis via “science” is the vehicle to bring utopia (heaven).
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Theists lumped into the same category
by Christ Alone insome members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
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Christ Alone, I don't know about the JWs, but Christendom tends to view Satan as directly leading non-believers, whereas, a more accurate way of looking at it might be that evil, not being any kind of substance itself but the absence of good, is leading people. The former provokes strawmen arguments from people. It's a lot easier to demonstrate that evil exists as opposed to trying to demosntrate that Satan exists.
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Theists lumped into the same category
by Christ Alone insome members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
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NoStonecutters
Cofty, I hope not, because one would not be making a completely informed decision if they were letting their emotions (i.e. reactionary motivation) influence their decision. The result would be that in order to justify their decision (cognitive dissonance), they would have to engage in rationalization. I see that going on with some ExJw atheists, although not all.
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Theists lumped into the same category
by Christ Alone insome members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
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I will post about Enlightenment science and the occult on another thread.
Would it be fair to say that Ex Jehovah's Witness predisposition to atheism is largely reactionary in nature, only later becoming rationalized?
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templelijah
by turtleturtle inis templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.
what is your take on this elijah?
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NoStonecutters
There is some truth in his ramblings, Christ Alone. It would be easy to ridicule him, but why not engage him on the things he gets right? And, he is polite.
I wonder, do you consider me one of the crazies?
There are conspiracy facts, and then conspiracy theories. To reject all conspiracies is itself crazy and dismissive. For men conspire (two or more) all the time. And Satan is the great conspirator against the Church. Christian Orthodoxy actually makes better sense of world conspiracies, as opposed disinformation shills like Alex Jones. Instead of there being a bunch of conspiracies spread out, the Church has always taught that they are all part of a grand plot against the Church. (See the late Maurice Pinay's The Plot Against the Church http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/).
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Theists lumped into the same category
by Christ Alone insome members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
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NoStonecutters
Interesting that you bring up rejecting scientific methods. I think theists need to do a better job of ascertaining the "scientific" methods atheists use to reach their conclusions, because, quite frankly, enlightenment "science" is riddled with occult influence. The Enlightenment itself was fostered by the explosion in Freemasonry and Kabbalah. That creates a huge bias factor that most overlook. For atheists to think that the Enlightenment was based in puritan science is simply naivety or ignorance.
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templelijah
by turtleturtle inis templelijah serious when he posted this to his blog?.
http://templelijah.wordpress.com/gb-8k-infiltration/gb-stephen-lett-flashes-666-hand-sign/.
what is your take on this elijah?
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NoStonecutters
Indeed, Listener, Much of the above info you posted was gleaned from Fritz Springmeier's work in the '80s and '90s. As you may know, he authored The Watchtower and the Masons. The WT does appear to be distancing itself from its compromising connections to Freemasonry, namely through Russell and his pyramid fetish. Now, pyramid fetishism is absoloutely everywhere, as you may have noticed from these two threads:
WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?
666 "AOK" Hand Sign in The Watchtower of May 1, 2012
Researching the Illuminati is not only very interesting, it becomes a way of learning how to discern just what the heck is what in these deceptive times.