Satanus, Christians aren't using magic, especially not through the tetragrammaton. The tetragrammaton has little significance in the Church and is forbidden in the Divine Liturgy as well as in most hymns. Using the tetragrammaton tends to render the Gospels null and void and can only be considered a form of Judaizing.
NoStonecutters
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Do you call your father by his legal name? Should we for God?
by trujw injw's make much of calling god jehovah as if somehow this makes them better than us.
do we call our mother's by their legal name?
if you do or do not does that make the other less a son or daughter of god?.
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Yes, for good reason appellation Father is dominant in the NT over Jehovah
by QC inthe purpose of the christian era is to moves descendent of adam into the family of jesus, the "last adam eternal father.
" 1co 15:45; isa 9:6 so, the christian order is familial, it is about jesus' family pleasing the father.. .
this is why jesus is the center piece of the nt greek text.
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NoStonecutters
Great post, QC.
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Do you call your father by his legal name? Should we for God?
by trujw injw's make much of calling god jehovah as if somehow this makes them better than us.
do we call our mother's by their legal name?
if you do or do not does that make the other less a son or daughter of god?.
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NoStonecutters
Satanus, my quote of the letter to the Bishops was to show the contrast with the Christian view of the tetragrammaton. It has significance only to Christian heretics involved in Kabbalah and mysticism, epitomized by John Dee.
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Do you call your father by his legal name? Should we for God?
by trujw injw's make much of calling god jehovah as if somehow this makes them better than us.
do we call our mother's by their legal name?
if you do or do not does that make the other less a son or daughter of god?.
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NoStonecutters
Jeffro, I never said magic was real. So, what's your point?
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Do you call your father by his legal name? Should we for God?
by trujw injw's make much of calling god jehovah as if somehow this makes them better than us.
do we call our mother's by their legal name?
if you do or do not does that make the other less a son or daughter of god?.
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NoStonecutters
Satanus, I think it's telling that the tetragrammaton is never used in the Divine Luturgy.
Regarding your question:
"In Western magic, "Tetragrammaton" is the holiest name of God. It is composed of the four Hebrew letters YHVH and is the occult key that unlocks the meaning behind astrological symbolism, the tarot, the mysteries of the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation, the kabbalah, the Enochian magick of John Dee, and modern ritual magic. It may be considered the archetypal blueprint of creation, the basis for such fundamental forms as DNA double helix and the binary language of modern computers. Its true structure is the arcanum of occultism." — Tetragrammaton: The Secret to Evoking Angelic Powers and the Key to the Apocalypse (Llewellyn's High Magick Series)
Counterpoint
2008 “Letter to the Bishops Conferences on The Name of God,”
"When in fact St. Paul, with regard to the crucifixion, writes that “God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name which is above every name” (Phil 2:9), he does not mean any name other than “Lord,” for he continues by saying, “and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord” (Phil 2:11; cf. Is 42:8: “I am the Lord; that is my name.”) The attribution of this title to the risen Christ corresponds exactly to the proclamation of his divinity. The title in fact becomes interchangeable between the God of Israel and the Messiah of the Christian faith, even though it is not in fact one of the titles used for the Messiah of Israel. In the strictly theological sense, this title is found, for example, already in the first canonical Gospel (cf. Mt 1:20: “The angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream.”) One sees it as a rule in Old Testament citations in the New Testament (cf. Acts 2:20): “The sun shall be turned into darkness. . . before the day of the Lord comes” (Joel 3:4); 1 Peter 1:25: “The word of the Lord abides for ever” (Is 40:8). However, in the properly Christological sense, apart from the text cited of Philippians 2:9-11, one can remember Romans 10:9 (“If you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved”), 1 Corinthians 2:8 (“they would not have crucified the Lord of glory”), 1 Corinthians 12:3 (“No one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit”) and the frequent formula concerning the Christian who lives “in the Lord” (Rom 16:2; 1 Cor 7:22, 1 Thes 3:8; etc)."
The idea that Hebrew is divine or Holy is preposterous and can only be from the occult. For one thing, God's intention was ALWAYS universal, not confined just to a small group of people. Furthermore, God used the Greek language to bring the world the Good News. If there was an declaration by God of the insignificance of the Hebrew language, that was it.
Hebraism is Illuminism, in that the elite create a power structure based on the initiate's required acquisition of Hebraic (language) knowledge, among other things.
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Atheism's occult roots
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"The greatest humane and masonic duty we all own is to hold on to the positive science, to spread this belief among people and educate them with positive science [Darwinism] by adopting the view that this is the best and only way in evolution." —Türk Mason Magazine, Issue:25-26, March 1977, p. 59
Selami Isindag, a senior atheist mason, describes how atheistic freemasonry views humans in the light of evolution in his book titled Masonluktan Esinlenmeler [Inspirations from Freemasonry] as follows:
"From the point of view of evolution, human beings are no different from animals. For the formation of man and his evolution there are no special forces other than those to which animals are subjected. " — Dr. Selami Isindag, Sezerman Kardes VI, Masonluktan Esinlenmeler [Inspirations from Freemasonry], Istanbul 1977, pp. 78 , 110
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Do you call your father by his legal name? Should we for God?
by trujw injw's make much of calling god jehovah as if somehow this makes them better than us.
do we call our mother's by their legal name?
if you do or do not does that make the other less a son or daughter of god?.
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Good points, trujw.
At first, I used to think that the Watchtower was like other cults in that they find a niche concept and exploit it, providing a uniqueness to their cult. What I now know is that there is another dimension to the Watchtower's niche use of the Hebrew language, specifically the tetragrammaton. To put it quite bluntly, the Watchtower's niche is Jewish magic, or Kabbalah. Not only does Kabbalah require Hebrew names and letters to conduct magic, Freemasonry and the occult also make use of Hebrew in their rites and initiations. The tetragrammaton is central to occult rites.
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Watchtower using MK Ultra/Monarch programming?
by NoStonecutters ini have always wondered if the watchtower, being a major player in the brainwashing industry, is part of or incorporates mk ultra programming.. for those not familiar with it, project mk ultra was an illegal cia mind control program that apparently still exists unofficially through monarch butterfly programming.
childern are often the victims of this program, as social engineers and psychological operators found that sexually and physically abusing children produced traits beneficial to the intelligence community, like photographic memory and amnesia (good for carriers of secrets and sensitive information).
monarch programming also produces candidates for manchurian operations.. anyways, it seems that the cia could definitely benefit by using the watchtower to carry out some of this programming, as the structure of the watchtower kingdom halls makes it easy for predators to abuse kids with impunity.. i did a search on this forum and found at least one person who claims to have been a victim of this, if i am reading correctly.
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Watchtower using MK Ultra/Monarch programming?
by NoStonecutters ini have always wondered if the watchtower, being a major player in the brainwashing industry, is part of or incorporates mk ultra programming.. for those not familiar with it, project mk ultra was an illegal cia mind control program that apparently still exists unofficially through monarch butterfly programming.
childern are often the victims of this program, as social engineers and psychological operators found that sexually and physically abusing children produced traits beneficial to the intelligence community, like photographic memory and amnesia (good for carriers of secrets and sensitive information).
monarch programming also produces candidates for manchurian operations.. anyways, it seems that the cia could definitely benefit by using the watchtower to carry out some of this programming, as the structure of the watchtower kingdom halls makes it easy for predators to abuse kids with impunity.. i did a search on this forum and found at least one person who claims to have been a victim of this, if i am reading correctly.
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I have always wondered if the Watchtower, being a major player in the brainwashing industry, is part of or incorporates MK Ultra programming.
For those not familiar with it, Project MK Ultra was an illegal CIA mind control program that apparently still exists unofficially through Monarch Butterfly programming. Childern are often the victims of this program, as social engineers and psychological operators found that sexually and physically abusing children produced traits beneficial to the intelligence community, like photographic memory and amnesia (good for carriers of secrets and sensitive information). Monarch programming also produces candidates for Manchurian operations.
Anyways, it seems that the CIA could definitely benefit by using the Watchtower to carry out some of this programming, as the structure of the Watchtower kingdom halls makes it easy for predators to abuse kids with impunity.
I did a search on this forum and found at least one person who claims to have been a victim of this, if I am reading correctly. lauralisa mentions on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/7129/1/Yes-another-website
Apparently, one of the most obvious signs in victims of Monarch/MK Ultra programming is the presence of disassociative idenity disorder, also known as split personality disorder. Is there a high rate of Jehovah's Witnesses with this disorder?
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Watchtower Real Estate Fire Sale = Comfort for the Jews?
by Calebs Airplane inhas anyone noticed that all the watchtower buildings in brooklyn are (so far) being sold to real estate investment companies owned and operated by orthodox jews?
seriously, i couldnt identify one single watchtower building in brooklyn that went to a non-jewish real estate firm.. is the rothschild family finally cashing in on the initial investment they made in the watchtower at the end of the 19th century?
i have to wonder if they foresee a collapse or mass exodus in the near future and want to cash in their chips before these lose any more value..
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NoStonecutters
Caleb, I would argue that most of the Zionist-created Christian heretical movements are coming to an end. Even TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) is plagued with scandals. John Hagee is the only real moneymaker right now. Dispensationalism as a belief is dwindling, though.
Private jets, 13 mansions and a $100,000 mobile home just for the dogs: Televangelists 'defrauded tens of million of dollars from Christian network' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119493/Private-jets-13-mansions-100-000-mobile-home-just-dogs-Televangelists-defrauded-tens-million-dollars-Christian-network.html Never heard about this in the U.S. media unfortunately. Ironic that the mainstream media has no qualms about ridiculing Christian beliefs, but when it comes to exposing fraud and corruption in the Zionist-backed Christian organizations, the issues are swept under the rug.