There are some hate America first dogma pukers here. If you live here and don't like it move to England or Pakistan.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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Nope fink you have no idea what you are talking about again. Guns would be banned in parts of the country already but we here have a constitution one that sets us apart from the rest of the world. It embodies freedoms not granted by governments but that are integral to being alive. Nations have seen governments do horrible things to its people and first on the list was to disarm them. The truth about Australia and its gun bans are not at CNN or PMSNBC but the facts are elsewhere, https://thefederalist.com/2015/06/25/the-australia-gun-control-fallacy/.
No state can act to ban guns as we have seen in Heller, no congress can out and out ban guns as the SCOTUS will knock that down. They can regulate but there is a line and as long as we have the SC locked up its a no go zone. Hopefully we can get Trump back in for a second term and if Ginsberg will just die already it will be a generation or two before they can unlock it. Not one of the original 10 Amendments has ever been attempted to be repealed and in fact the only one that has ever been done was a horrible one that is the 18th. Its not going to happen. So you libtards can whine about it all you want but its not going to happen, and if they some how do start a civil war by thing to buy back no one but the idiots will turn them in.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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My apologies for calling fink stupid, he is ignorant of the facts on guns. It gets me going when someone thinks they know something but knows only the propaganda
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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If you want to know what the founders thought about firearms here it is in black and white. Rat fink get someone to explain it to you.
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."
- Thomas Paine, "Thoughts on Defensive War" in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789"For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 -
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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RtoN, no the militia is not the military but a citizen army made up of farmers, and trades men who had weapons in the home ready to if need be. Much like in Switzerland. The militia in the SA is not part of the military but every able bodied man who was a citizen of the state he lived in. To change the SA you have to do some very heavy lifting. Good luck with that.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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Ratfink, Canada has the population of one of the US states and its like an 80 year old woman, every one knows where she lives no one wants to visit. Second Canada has had the same issues with trying to ban assault weapons because there is no such thing. So they have not banned semi autos with detachable mags. Here are some guns that are for sale right now on GunCanada. You have destroyed your own Hypothesis.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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As Ratfink lies about again is "we don't want to ban all guns" Any true gun owner knows from experience or at least reading history that this is a thin veiled lie. It comes from people who know nothing about guns. These ignorant about gun individuals will say things like "we just want to ban "assault" weapons" They don't understand you can not ban assault weapons without banning many hunting rifles and target pistols and rifles and self defense firearms. The vast majority of guns sold in the world are in fact semi auto. A Remington 1100 Wingmaster used for hunting ducks and foul works the same way an AR15 or AK47 works. The Ruger Mini 14 not only works the same way an AR15 works is uses the same cartridge a 5.56 or 223. The Ruger 10/22 is the single most popular 22lr around today, and it works the same way any semi auto works. It uses some of the gas energy from the firing of the round to work the action. The action is really nothing more than a bolt action that works by gas pressure instead of your hand. So you either have to ban all guns but bolt, lever and single shot and pumps or you get what we had in the 94 crime bill, you ban pistol grips, bayonet lugs, flash suppressors and the like. The libtards know if they say lets ban your 1100 wingmaster and all semi autos they will loose every time so they do the look at the evil black gun BS, No one needs an evil black gun with a bayonet lug. They know this is just a first step. if they can take the first step then the next one will be sniper rifles I.E. scoped bolt action hunting rifles and then assault shotguns. The end is always the same and don't fall for lies its a total ban on guns.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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And yes I am a gun lover. I associate with many fellow gun lovers. We shoot semi and some of us shoot full autos. I own several suppressors. I use a 22lr with my Tac 65 to dispatch coons that eat my cats food. Also the occasional possum. What you flat landers think there is no use for is because you live in some brownstone and have no idea what it is like to live outside of a urban area. I have built ghost guns or 80 percent guns. I have used full autos. And one thing even some gun people don't know is well I will not say you antis will only use it against us. You see we gun owners know you libtards lie all the time. The libtards on TV news or left wing news like CNN or PMSNBC will say most gun owners want gun control. I suppose if you cherry pick the one in ten thousand who happens to own a gun and want gun control you may find someone that will say that. But we gun owners know it starts off with we just want common sense gun laws like universal back ground checks and a ban on these nasty looking guns. If you get that then it would be we just want to ban this type of ammo and that type of assault pump shot gun after all who needs more than two rounds to bring a duck down. Then its you don't need a revolver with 6 shots you don't need that, a single shot shot gun is all you need and then only if you have a reason like you live in the middle of no where and have sheep and the coyotes are getting them and then you have to keep your empty shell cases because you can not stock pile more than 20 rounds of ammo, then its you don't need to defend yourself if you can get to a gun you can get to a phone and call the police. Then its no one need a gun for any reason but the police and state. Then you can go fuck yourself.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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ROFLOL Ratfink, you post a video and that means you know guns. How ignorant can one fink be. I also loved the cartridge clips Jeh that one made me post it on the AR15 forum and got a lot of laughs there. Semi autos have been around for over 100 years. Why is it now an issue? Let that one sink in.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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Fink is a typical liberal idiot who thinks he has all the answers. He wants you to forget that in England knife murders are up at a substantial rate. The liberal crap of multiculturalism is at the center of most of this garbage. If someone wants to kill they can steal a large truck and head for a music festival or bridge in England. We do not take away pressure cookers because two Muslims blew up a race in Boston, we do not take away cars because someone used one to run over a bunch of people. We don't even take away Chocolate ding dongs because some idiot sits on his or her couch and eats them all day and develops adult diabetes and or becomes morbidly obese. I know a lot of you living in non free countries like parts of Europe think the Gov. should step in and take care of you because you have no sense of responsibility. Many have given up freedom for a fake sense of security. Guns are nothing more than a tool. I can use any tool as it was intended or as a weapon or to kill. The second amendment was not written into the constitution for hunting. To try to conflate this is ignorant or willfully stupid.