I am glad to see the mother did the right thing to protect her child. It is sad to see this disgusting creep use the Kingdom Hall to groom his victim.
Dreamerdude
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54 year old Jw pedophile molests 14yr old jw girl.
by notjustyet inneed someone to correct the article to let the readers know "it's not a church,.. it's a kingdom hall!!".
please share and comment on their fb page to get some info out there.
https://www.facebook.com/sunherald/posts/10157904826940532.
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Beth-Shan - Digital Reconstruction - IMAGES & DRAWINGS WANTED
by Bloody Hotdogs! in(just posted this over on exjw reddit as well).
as part of my masters in architecture degree (a treat to myself after leaving jws about 4 years ago), i'm attempting to digitally reconstruct some of watchtower's significant early buildings.
my goal is to produce accurate architectural drawings and images based on solid evidence.
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Dreamerdude
Apparently it was one big 75 acre property, with a small canyon in the middle. The houses were perched on cliffs on opposing sides of the canyon. A nice way to slip undetected from one part of town to another, in case the Japanese bombed one side. Or in case the FBI came to arrest the Judge. So much for relying on Jehovah. The bunker mentality of is not new.
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Beth-Shan - Digital Reconstruction - IMAGES & DRAWINGS WANTED
by Bloody Hotdogs! in(just posted this over on exjw reddit as well).
as part of my masters in architecture degree (a treat to myself after leaving jws about 4 years ago), i'm attempting to digitally reconstruct some of watchtower's significant early buildings.
my goal is to produce accurate architectural drawings and images based on solid evidence.
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Dreamerdude
Fascinating work, Bloody Hotdogs!
I didn't realize part of Beth Shan was still standing, until very recently. Beth Sarim is quite well known by the local JWs and they are eager to show it to visitors who read about it in the Proclaimers book. Beth Shan needs some publicity too.
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AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK
by steve2 inhere we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.
jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.
in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.
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Dreamerdude
Orphan Crow's point about the par takers being based on an actual Biblical number is interesting. WT insists this a finite number.
There were 12 people who claimed to be anointed in my congregation 50 years ago. They all "died faithful" many years ago, of old age, of old age.
I am also pretty sure that all the 52,000 people counted as partakers in the 1935 yearbook are dead. It is quite possible that more than 144,000 have already been counted as JW partakers in the past 140 years. That would not even leave enough room for the 12 apostles, much less the 1 million Christians estimated in the Roman Empire in the first century.
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LONDON Kingdom Hall for sale - well, kinda!
by darkspilver inthe sell-off of kingdom hall's in the uk is continuing unabated as we are about to enter 2017....in addition to the thirty-five kingdom halls highlighted by the search a couple of months back.....it seems the cry has gone out to: "sell them faster!
faster!
faster!
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Dreamerdude
The GB must have given up on any further growth in London. Once these expensive properties are sold, it will be impossible to buy land for new ones in the future. The same goes for Los Angeles. I suppose those who want to waste time in KHs will have to move to Ecuador or Africa.
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Is it just for social reasons you remain?
by UnshackleTheChains inas someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!
why is this the case you may ask?.
if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.
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UTC, thank you for your OP. It really struck a chord with me. If I can get my wife to wake up, I will be gone in an instant. I know we can build better friendships, and rebuild some friendships with good people who have preceded us out the door.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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I heard some interesting news about this from a Spanish CO. The English and Spanish congregations have been reorganized, so that every 4th congregation was eliminated in Orange County. This means 25% of the members are scrambling to join new congregations in overcrowded KHs. The savings (profit) from this raw deal is estimated at $7 million. San Diego County is next, with a similar amount of loot for Mother. Each of these counties makes up about 10% of California's population, and about 1% of the US population. So the first round of KH sales in the US could rake in hundreds of millions $$$.
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Is it just for social reasons you remain?
by UnshackleTheChains inas someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!
why is this the case you may ask?.
if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.
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Dreamerdude
Yes, I am strictly a social witness, since waking up mentally. I have always been mostly a social witness, since I was born into it. My wife has always been more serious about the rules, and she pretends to understand the ever changing doctrines. She is very deep in slumber, but I try to tickle her awake, as possible.
I like hanging out with the fun witnesses and my wife and I are popular with them. We dont know many others. But I try to avoid the boring ones and the extremely deluded ones.
I try to minimize my support for the local cult activities and do my very best to avoid any support for the world wide work.
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Angry and scared
by BlackWolf ini feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
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Dreamerdude
Black Wolf, maybe you can use this month's JWTV to build common ground with your parents. You can explain how you were impressed by the faith building example of Thelma, the 107 old lady who is keeping up with present truth. Although she was raised in the truth from the age of 10 she took the time to make the truth her own and got baptized at the age of 30, in imitation of Jesus. This was after she had been married for 8 years. You can explain that you also want to serve Jehovah for the long term, maybe 100 years or so. This seems so much better than the tragedies that happened to your relatives who got baptized before they were ready and left the truth.
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Meeting Attendance levels
by freddo ini attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.
out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.
for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.
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Dreamerdude
The hall near me had 4 congregations with an average 180 pubs each. One was recently eliminated, so there are now 3 congregations with an average of 240 publishers. Still there is a total of 720 publishers meeting at this one building.
Here is the explanation given to the r&f:
The seating capacity determined by the local fire department is 189. Therefore, seating was provided assuming 100% attendance, with some room for visitors or new ones. Now the idea is to size the congregation based on anticipated attendance of 60-70%.
Previously each congregation had about 100 on Sunday. The first Sunday after the reorganization saw 180 for one congregation, but I don't know numbers for the others. All came early to grab seats and see who they got as refugees from the disbanded congregation. I don't know how many were counted on phone lines.
My thoughts: Since they got 75% attendance on the first Sunday, they will probably be able to keep below the legal limit allowed by fire regulations. No one seems to be expecting growth, just hoping that no more than 80% show up. The most deluded that do show up will be sitting cheek by jowel. I will be a gentleman to stand up and go elsewhere to read what you good folks have to say. I might complain about my aching a** or seek out Freddo to rejoice in our apathy.