i link to this board a couple of times a day, sometimes in the early hours and there is always a flurry of activity, often from an enclave of veterans.
i wonder, are you all in prison?
i understand the pc's are allowed in some facilities.. do you all work?
Corporate drone at this moment, "working" as a legal secretary in a very slow law firm at this time. I'm a terrible employee because I dont enjoy my work at all. What work? Plenty of time to post and read here.... Hmmmm. I also wait tables part time. I'm quitting the day job soon to go wait tables and I'm seriously considering going back to school! Yay!!
Love seeing the comments here. Haha.
Stacey
please see the link attached for my friend's new book entitled: .
awakening of a jehovah's witness.
http://www.prometheusbooks.com/site/new.html.
Please see the link attached for my friend's new book entitled:
Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness
http://www.prometheusbooks.com/site/new.html
Stacey
i repeat this subject because i see it come up as a defense.
of the organization ("do the math").
it makes my blood boil!.
I also have seen most of the kids that I grew up with in my congregation leaving the organization. Some continued, and lived the double life. I think that 75% number is about right.
This org really does screw up kids though. Guilt and fear are no way to bring up healthy children with healthy attitudes. All I can say is that my parents did a good job at "trying" to be good JWs. Thank goodness they failed, and were "bad" JWs. The Watchtower didn't ruin my family, because we all escaped! We are OUT and FREE.
Stacey
some have wondered about where i come from on the topic of faith.
and, as we all ponder our past jw religion, and the events of the day, i need to take some time to address matters of my faith, as i look for some answers.. when adam was created, god did not wait for adam to play a guessing game and start praying.
rather, god reached out to adam.
Amazing,
I just wanted to say that I like the way you write, and thank you for sharing your deepest thoughts with us. I am not so eloquent with my words, but I find myself this year coming to the same spot that you are in and identifying with your words. It's funny when you let go of everything you've ever believed, how it just brings you back to square one.
Good luck on your search, and please keep sharing your thoughts.
Stacey
this is probably a strange question, but how do you "pick" something else to study?
i'm having a hard time just picking up the bible & reading it - but i'm terrified of picking up any "study material" from other organized religions to help.
which bible do i use?
Another thing that really bothers me... the holier than art thou attitude of most christians. I was there, I once probably said the same things as many of them did.
Wow, getting out of the BOX opens up the world so much. Tollerance and acceptance, what is wrong with that? The attitude of I am right and you are wrong is what I cannot ever be a part of again. Embracing questions in life is so much better than having a pre-made packaged DEAL. Just my little old opinion.
Please dont be sad for me. I'm much more open in my life and feeling free than I ever have been before.
Wow, the mentality...
Stacey
as of 11:45 this morning (i had a telphone call this morning with the refernce department person named holly at 212-963-7234), i can tell you that the watchtower has disassociated itself from the united nations dpi!!!!!!.
the dpi is now taking them off the list.
the dpi requested the list removal to be done this morning!!!!!.
Read the book 1984 by George Orwell. It will be erased. It will have never happened.....
Craziness,
Stacey
this is probably a strange question, but how do you "pick" something else to study?
i'm having a hard time just picking up the bible & reading it - but i'm terrified of picking up any "study material" from other organized religions to help.
which bible do i use?
Petty,
I too was born & raised JW. Coming out I was scared to pick up any materials that were "apostate" and not WT publications. What fear they instilled in us.
After leaving the JWs I did start studying Christianity. Yes, from one religion to the next. I did that for several years, and again did not use my critical thinking and reasoning. Just went along with yet another man's rendition of the "truth".
Now I belong to no religion, I read anything I want to. I am not scared of putting "bad" information into my head. I take things with a grain of salt that I read, and I dont believe it just because I read it or because someone told me it was the way to go. I have recently done much critical study of the bible and the christian religion, and decided that maybe that was not the path for me.
There are many eternal questions in life. I dont have the answers. And neither does anyone else really. It's all just anyone's best guess. And if god is going to punish us for guessing wrong (with all of the lack of clear direction), well then geez, he's not a very nice god. I have just come to terms that there is no more black & white in my life. Life is too colorful to make everything black and white. Why cant we just ask questions and wonder. I've learned to be comfortable with not knowing.
I hope you can come to something that you are comfortable with. Just know that most of us have been where you are. And we've all taken our own path. You must do the same.
Just blabbing....
Stacey
hello friends, this is your vitameatavegamin girl.
by the way, don't forget to watch the i love lucy marathon on tv land starting october 15th, it should be a hoot.
50th anniversary of the show.. anyway, lately i have been doing more thinking about everything.
Namewithheld makes some excellent points in my opinion. I think that it is so true. We all know only what is in our view being JWs. What if you were raised Mormon, Jewish, Muslim, whatever... that is what you would know as "the truth"! There is so much more to see when you get out of your little box of belief. Why go with the "closest thing to the truth", when I think really there is no one religion that is "the truth". Fear is just a tool of any religion to keep you in their circle.
Once you get past that fear, life is good... life is limitless... sure there are still questions. But when you come to the point that questions are ok, and that maybe there are no definitive answers in life at this very moment, things change. For me anyways.
Just blabbing...
Stacey
summary: real people, phony religion.
i'll let the others fill in on the details.
It was nice to meet everyone, and I think we all enjoyed each other's company. I'm glad that I went!
Stacey
the gathering will be at golden gate park, lindley meadows starting at 12:30 on sunday, october 7th.
it will end at sunset.
bring some meat to cook for yourself, and please bring a dish to share.
The gathering will be at Golden Gate Park, Lindley Meadows starting at 12:30 on Sunday, October 7th. It will end at sunset. Bring some meat to cook for yourself, and please bring a dish to share.
Lindley Meadows is located on JFK Drive in Golden Gate Park (that's near 30th Avenue north side of the park).
We hope to see you all there!
Stacey
