Yes, the cost would go down considerably if they just charged $10 dollars a head, because the large, underemployed families just wouldn't show up. And for sure, there wouldn't be any "interested ones".
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1 day Assembly Woodburn, Oregon 2/11/2017
by Spoletta inattendance: 1,2037 cost: approximately $12,000 baptised: 2 born ins.
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I would like to rant about how I get really upset when I get some weak invitation back to the cult.
by schnell inmy mother wanted me to know that the co gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall.
he is not the reason i left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.. my mother-in-law sent me texts which i ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on facebook just for me, and it's a prodigal son meme that says, "you see the signs, come back it's not too late".. yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 bce, or that man was created in 4026 bce from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the un, or that i should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.. what am i supposed to say?
i usually just ignore them, but before i do that, i see that shit and i storm into this weird internalized rage where i start writing a response and deleting it.
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Let's face it, if God were really serious about saving the world, he would perform real miracles and make sure we knew he was the one doing them. If we are such weak, easily swayed, flawed individuals , how can we be expected to believe in something so intangible?
All the signs that JWs tout as indicators that the world is ending have always been with us, so as long as the little boy keeps crying "wolf",I refuse to believe him.
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1 day Assembly Woodburn, Oregon 2/11/2017
by Spoletta inattendance: 1,2037 cost: approximately $12,000 baptised: 2 born ins.
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Attendance: 1,2037 Cost: Approximately $12,000 Baptised: 2 Born ins
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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freemindfade. As usual, I can find as many sources to debunk the high cost of immigrants as to confirm them. However, I tend to discount sources like Fox, Breitbart and Trump himself. We can argue this all day. Ask the farmers in California how much money it will cost them if their labor supply is cut off. They will tell you that they can only survive by making the illegals here already legal, and bringing in more from other countries, as most Americans will not do the work under the conditions and wages currently offered. I'm sure you can find some source to contradict this, so I claim stalemate.
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Jehovah God and Jesus Christ the difference in the "Old Testament " and the "New Testament"
by smiddy inwhen you compare all the communications jehovah god had with humans whether it was by angels ,dreams ,or prophets as well as his intervention in human affairs when it suited him and their are many examples in the old testament to look at for about 4000 years .
the same cannot be said for jesus christ as king of kings to sit on the throne to rule over the earth for a thousand years.
in one sense he was king of christians 2000 years ago in another sense according to jw`s he was enthroned in 1914-18 for the next 1000 years.. whether you believe he was king over christians on his ascencion to heaven or his enthronement in 1914-18 for 2000 + years we have not had any communication from either god jehovah or christ jesus in any form one way or another.for the past 2000 years.. for the first 4000 years you couldnt shut jehovah up ,and the next 2000 years you dont here a beep out of jehovah or christ jesus.. for jw apologists when god gave a ruling/decree in the old testament how many times did he adjust /redefine/change what he said using the excuse "the light gets brighter and brighter" ?
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Then again, maybe he spoke to us again through the Koran.(just joking!)
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God’s silence teaches more than what the “revealed scriptures” do!
by anointed1 inobjective reading of scriptures can see many human thoughts in them.
objective analysis of religions would show that they exist primarily for their own benefit.
is science too travelling in the same direction?
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Off subject. Great movie!
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Serpent in the Garden of Eden is not Satan
by anointed1 inmany interpret serpent in the garden of eden as the satan hence miss the whole point because satan himself does not exist.
he is a fictional character [for example, in the temptation account, satan is shown as reflecting the erroneous belief of ancient time that shape of earth is flat, thus taking jesus to the top of “a very high mountain” and showed him “all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.” (mathew 4:8, 9) the fact that jesus did not correct the mistaken view of satan shows the account of temptation is allegorical.
further, jesus knew that satan was only a personification of evil (mathew 16:23; john 6:70) and categorically declared that “all evil thoughts proceed from one’s heart,” not from satan.
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It certainly seems plausible that Satan could be that little voice that occasionally inclines us to do things that aren't so smart. I certainly see no reason that can't be applied to the story of Adam and Eve. Maybe the whole point of that story is to show us that it's not always a good idea to listen to it. Being human, Christ wouldn't be invulnerable to it. I certainly occasionally debate with myself about the advisability of certain actions.
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A serious question for any who believe in any God of any religion who think God is interested in humans.
by smiddy inthe world health organization states that in the year 2015 ,5.9 million children died under the age of 5 years of age.. in 2010 the death rate for children under the age of 5 years of age was 7.6 million.
thats over 13 million in just 2 years .
i dont think you need to be a rocket scientist to conclude that since mankind has been on the earth for however long you want to believe and i`m just going on a conservative estimate of 6000 years by the above figures i quoted their would be billions of children under 5 yearsof age that would have died.
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What if God is not indifferent, but merely not omnipotent. Does creating something necessarily mean you have complete control over it? You could say that Satan challenging God is not so much God allowing free will, but God's inability to prevent Satan from rebelling.He may be aware of our suffering, but not able to do much about it.
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Hypocrisy Overload! "When Loved Ones Do Not Share Your Faith: Awake!—2003"
by pale.emperor incame across this article regarding non jw relatives.
the hypocrisy in this article is astounding.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102003808#h=10.
my comments are in yellow.. .
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Yes, Jehovah's Chariot has turned many an old belief into roadkill.
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84 Lumber Commercial
by azor injust saw this commercial and was very impressed.
hoping more companies start doing the same.
most of us are immigrants.
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I am in no way for open borders. I am tired though, of demonizing people who try to build a better life for themselves. They are criminals in the strict interpretation of the law, but they aren't all bad people.
I just don't believe that a wall is the right solution. Surely we can come up with something better that won't cost $21 billion.