I'll vote for anyone from a party that best represents the diversity of race, gender, and religion that makes this country great! Oh, wait... that doesn't leave much choice. I know! I'll vote for someone who will make voter registration easier, is against gerrymandering, and works hard to combat voter suppression! No... that doesn't work either. I've got it! Someone who'll work to make sure Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid get the funding they need, while making sure that all children get the education they need to succeed in this complex technological world we live in, while seeing to it that their basic needs are taken care of. Damn it!... I guess I have only one choice. ANYONE from a party that believes these things.
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What Are Your Rights?
by Simon inrights seem to be everywhere nowadays.
say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.
people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.
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MeanMrMustard.
Sorry, we just live in a different universe. I went back and re-read the articles, and they look the same to me. I think we both have a completely different take on what is acceptable, and not acceptable in a civilized society.
Am I not correct that the Libertarian view of children, is that a mother or father may not inflict physical violence on their children, but should be allowed to let them die of neglect, by withholding food, shelter, or clothing, because to require this would infringe on their liberty, or freedom to do as they please with their property? Does this philosophy also mean that they have the right to sell their children? That's what I take from this article. If I'm wrong, please tell me what I'm misunderstanding. I'm sincere. I don't see any other interpretation of what I just read. I'm not trying to smear anyone, I would really appreciate your take on this.
Thanks.
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What Are Your Rights?
by Simon inrights seem to be everywhere nowadays.
say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.
people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.
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Simon.
Being fairly sure, but not certain, that you are, or at least lean towards being Libertarian I realize that nothing I say will sway you, but want you to know that I've done my research, and I'm not spouting leftist propaganda.
First, I'm going to list the titles of all the articles I found in the Muses Daily Articles, which is part of their online website. Just type Mises Institute, and the title, and you can read them yourself.
Civil Rights for Gays
Human Rights as Property Rights
Children's Rights
Civil Rights and the Supreme Court
Why Discriminate?
Rothbard Explains the Proper Response to Climate Change
The Civil War: Both Sides Were Wrong
Freedom of Want is Slavery for All
The Confederate Constitution
The Despot named Lincoln
Social Security: The Most Successful Ponzi Scheme in History
How FDR Made the Depression Worse
There are other articles where they feel there is no need for minimum wage, Public Education, rent control, and Medicare.
Two of the founders were Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell. Rothbard has many kind things to say about the Confederacy, David Duke, and Joseph McCarthy. Rockwell posts interesting papers on lewrockwell.com with the titles
Legalize Drunk Driving
The Vindication of Joe McCarthy
and (you should find this interesting, Simon!)
Relativity and the Priesthood of Science
Now, to the subject of Walter Block. You say he doesn't advocate the despicable things he discusses in Defending the Undefendable. That may be true. But, here's the truth of the matter. He truly believes that those ideas are correct, and that the world would be better if we followed them. He is both a Libertarian and an Austrian Economist, as are Rothbard and Rockwell. He is also a pompous ass. If you care to hear his Libertarian blathering, go to YouTube and type Minority Report: Walter Block, and listen to what he has to say. I find him rude, arrogant and unable to answer simple questions. Of course, you might find him a font of wisdom.
These guys live in a fantasy world, where if everyone listened to them, we'd all play nice, and everyone would respect your personal and properly rights, we'd all band together and build roads and hospitals by pooling our resources, and no one would tell us what to do, or steal our money by making us help those who are lazy and undeserving, and if they die, so what? We're only responsible for ourselves.
So, if you wonder why I wouldn't believe anything I hear on YouTube from Joe Salerno of the Mises Institute, this is just a sampling. The world they envision would be a horrible one, where the worst of us would rise to the top, and we'd end up with Kings and serfs, like the good old days.
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Infiltrated Elders?
by john.prestor inso i'm watching john cedars commentary on the annual meeting from this last october, and at one point he shows a clip of garrett loesch talking about the struggles jehovah's witnesses faced decades before in the soviet union.
he claimed that police officers, maybe the kgb, infiltrated congregations which met in secret by studying with jehovah's witnesses, getting baptized, and then working their way up to becoming elders.
ceders jokes that this shows what kind of role holy spirit actually plays within body of elders, but another interpretation came to my mind just now.
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Then again, certain police may have already been susceptible to indoctrination, and just switched allegiance from one mind control group to another.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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Roughhousing? I went back and looked at the commercial, and though they were the same size, one boy was in distress. When I roughhoused with my brothers, there was generally a sense of play, and usually we were laughing.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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Cofty. I wasn't disagreeing with your view of the differences between men and women. They're certainly there. I was just trying to give the women the benefit of the doubt, not challenging your premise.My apologies.
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What Are Your Rights?
by Simon inrights seem to be everywhere nowadays.
say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.
people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.
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Of course, I was speaking of Joe Salerno.
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What Are Your Rights?
by Simon inrights seem to be everywhere nowadays.
say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.
people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.
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I stand by my statement. Any serious examination of all the material I've presented is there for anyone who does more than cursory research. Some of my conclusions come from reading articles that the Institute has published. Walter Block has written on every topic I mentioned, and you can hear him espouse them on Youtube, and in his book Defending the Indefensible. Austrian Economics is merely another philosophy among many, and like Libertarianism, disagrees with other's ideas, and considers itself the true standard bearer of correct economics. Being a proponent of that philosophy, and by his association with the Mise Institute, I would assume that he shares many of it's views, so I choose to take anything he says with skepticism.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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Sorry for the spell check error. I truly did write Cofty.
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Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?
by minimus inso much is said regarding men , in a negative way.
shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.
men should be less masculine.
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Lofty. May I make the observation that I see no mention of how many women, (as compared to men) were experienced campers. That should be part of the equation. If I put my 19 year old son in the woods with his nerdy friends, they'd be dead in a couple of weeks.