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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Simon. Not to be flippant, but by sending jobs to Mexico, aren't we employing people who might otherwise try to come here? Short of guaranteeing that all jobs must be filled by native or legal residents, and levying severe fines and jail time to those who hire illegals, workers will continue to come to the US.

  The refugees are a separate situation, we can try vetting them all, but I don't know if this country could afford the cost of adequately screening everyone claiming asylum. Unless we achieve equity in jobs and civil rights in the poorer nations, I can't see any real solution to this problem.

  I see in the news today that another Republican now wants to severely cut the number of legal immigrants to this country. So, will this solve the problem? I doubt it. It will make some people happy, but that's about it.

  I guess we're left with the xenophobic option, just close the borders completely, and if everything goes to hell, we can try something else. At least it will shut up the alt-right, which is not such a bad thing.
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  2017 Circuit Assembly: Lesbians at school demonstration

  by darkspilver in

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  steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?

  i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.

  note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.

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  Most of the single heterosexuals in the congregations I've been in aren't single by choice. Either they're old, no one will have them, there aren't enough men to go around, or the men there are losers. This happens with women too, but not as often, given the male to female ratio.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Simon. I'm all for higher wages, but people have to realize that they'll likely have to pay more for goods and services. I'm willing to, but is everyone else? There'll be a lot of whining when people can't afford their "Made in the USA" 72 inch flat screen TVs. Not to mention $2 heads of lettuce.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Until people stop illegally hiring them, they'll keep coming, legal or not. Why do I not see any outrage about the scumbags who exploit these people? They're the ones who are taking away jobs from legal residents and citizens.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Raziel. Thanks for the clarification. I think the kind of weapon I'm thinking of is the type that allows a high rate of fire without having to reload. You can still pump out a lot of bullets with a large magazine, even if you only shoot one at a time.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  A lot of the arguments here are about jobs and safety. Isn't the point of immigration letting people into the country who will become a part of the work force and become productive members of society? If we're truly trying to save jobs, we should not allow any immigration, and truly enforce the penalties for hiring illegal workers. I'd love to see patriotic Americans out working in the fields on a hot summer day for peanuts. If we want to save jobs, lets not import anything, and completely close the borders. That should also take care of terrorism. Anything else won't be 100% effective. How else to stem the flood of criminals and terrorists?

  What would make us safer, a ban on immigrants, or a ban on military grade weapons? I think gun ownership is fine, but no one needs an automatic weapon to hunt or target shoot. I'd feel safer with less guns than less immigrants. It's just plain stupid to worry about being killed by terrorists when there are so many more dangerous things all around us.

  Is it worse for 1 American to be killed by a terrorist, or 10,000 by US citizens? If you think so, than you're totally irrational. It has nothing to do with bigots or racists, though it doesn't take a genius to realize that some defenders of the ban are (Notice that I said some, not all, and they know who they are).

  Common sense says that walls and bans are a simplistic, relatively ineffective solution to the problems we face. And once again, I'm not saying that there aren't dangers out there, but why can't we just put them into perspective, rather than have knee jerk reactions to everything.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  What I've not heard from anyone on this or any other threads is what exactly is "extreme vetting"? Is this just another slogan like "repeal Obamacare"? In 90 days are we going to hear that they haven't figured out what to do yet?

  This administration is big on getting things done, but have no idea HOW to get things done! Let's hear a shred of evidence that there is a plan, and maybe people will back it. From what I've read, Trump is rubber stamping Bannon's ideas without even considering the ramifications.

  We still have no idea how to pay for the wall, let alone what to do about the ACA. Why don't we tackle one problem at a time? I hardly think we're in danger of of a nuke going off in New York, or another major city in the next month or so.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Simon. I understand your point, but if I thought there was a way to give my children a better life, or protect their lives by going somewhere else, I wouldn't worry too much about the legality of it. At least, I hope I would have the courage to do it.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  never a jw. So the anti-immigration people aren't manipulative?
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  We deserve to die

  by elfgoblin in

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  at the meeting today, we were reading the watchtower and this elder apologetically said to such a degree in regards to romans 5:12 that "we humans are not worthy of any mercy from jehovah.

  we shouldn't even have free will because we can't possibly do anything good enough to please jehovah.

  we don't even deserve life because of sin.

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  And it's not enough to lead a blameless life, you still have work another 1000 years to prove you're worthy of God's love.