Spoletta

Joined

• started 14 topics
• posted 674 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Spoletta

• 
  26

  Follow up: the baby did not survive

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was always a long shot anyway.

  but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

  that is a deity for ya!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  A young couple in my congregation made the choice to have a baby that had 0% chance of survival. They named the baby, took pictures, and held it till it died. The congregation praised their bravery and spirituality. They were never the same, and a few years later, they both had left the Truth.

  I have two children, and imagining the pain and loss in such a situation brings tears to my eyes. Why would God only resurrect a child that reached full term. If life begins when the first cells divide, then that life should be as precious in God's eye's as a fully developed human being.

  My heart goes out to that family, I am so sorry for their loss.
• 
  12

  One million dollar reward offered...

  by Jafox in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for information leading to the arrest and imprisonment of.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  The Writing Department member who first used the word "thrilling" to describe Watchtower proclamations.
• 
  14

  March 1, 2017 BOE Re: Update on Local Design/Construction Arrangement

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  march 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: update on local design/construction arrangement.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  I recall a few years back there was a local needs part asking congregation members to keep on the lookout for suitable Kingdom hall sites. This was before the LDC existed. There was a lot going on (mostly renovations), And many people going out to work at various sites.

  With the formation of the LDC, I haven't seen much activity at all. Have they finished all the work and plan to sell the renovated halls as they consolidate the congregations? I would imagine that they can survive for many years on the real estate profits. The current GB will no doubt be long gone before the money runs out, so they're home free.

  I believe that the whole overlapping generation change is to allow the current GB to escape the consequences of their actions, and leave whoever follows holding the bag.
• 
  25

  It's right there in our faces, how could we NOT see it?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know there have been many many posts on here over the years on the deity of jesus.. i am submitting this one because i am feeling a little confused.. the thing is, i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i know this.

  so when i am going through my bible reading (to all you haters, yes i still do it) i see so many scriptures that just fly in the face of everything the jws teach about jesus.. i begin to wonder if indeed i am diseased in the mind ,as they will try to paint me, because it seems so plain to me.. i never even gave it a though growing up as to if jesus and god were equal.

  i just didn't.. now when i read scriptures like philippians 9.... 9 for this very reason, god exalted him to a superior position+ and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name,+ 10 so that in the name of jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground+— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that jesus christ is lord+ to the glory of god the father.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  I've always come at the question from the viewpoint of Occam's Razor. When I try to wrap my mind around how the Trinity would work, smoke comes out of my ears. I can more easily imagine the Father/Son relationship, where the son takes over the family business.
• 
  27

  German Foreign Office Issues Travel Warning For Sweden Due To Terrorism Risk. It would be funny if it were not true.

  by kpop in

  1. social
  2. current

  who would have thought that one simple expression, "last night in sweden" would suddenly shine the light on the cockroaches?

  who would have thought so many people would laugh at the president for saying such a thing!

  german government warning march 1, 2017.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  This is not necessarily true of all on this site, but I find that the right leaning comments on many of these threads tend to resemble examples of eisegesis rather than exegesis.
• 
  10

  Witnesses desperate for news to feel good about themselves

  by joker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a relative who is a "dyed in the wool true blue jw" and yesterday he sent me this link with the jw method of evaluating the news " more to come !.

  sounds like they're grasping at straws now to put meat on their failed prophecy bones.. http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/michigan/2017/02/23/family-christian-stores-close/98310234/.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  If the Organization had to rely on book, magazine, and paraphernalia sales, they would be gone by now.
• 
  19

  Jehovah will clean his house first...

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the stuff going on in the org.

  that is not being said, many of the friends say, well, jehovah will clean his house first....with all this religious hiding of child abuse...what denomination was exposed/cleaned first...although they were forced they were exposed and many still go to these places of worship.

  so are the jw really god's chosen channel.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  If it's not his house, there's no reason for him to clean it. When it gets dirty enough, sensible ones will get out of it.
• 
  27

  German Foreign Office Issues Travel Warning For Sweden Due To Terrorism Risk. It would be funny if it were not true.

  by kpop in

  1. social
  2. current

  who would have thought that one simple expression, "last night in sweden" would suddenly shine the light on the cockroaches?

  who would have thought so many people would laugh at the president for saying such a thing!

  german government warning march 1, 2017.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  Seems like sensible precautions to take when visiting any country. Doesn't exactly rise to the level of a national crisis.
• 
  102

  Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

  by kpop in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

  after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

  " shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  The older I get, the less a state of oblivion bothers me. I do, however, feel sad when a life is cut short. All that potential lost.
• 
  24

  What not to say...

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys.

  i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.

  i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Spoletta

  I think the term "the truth" is one of those titles that have become meaningless with repetition. I catch myself saying it without thinking after all those years of hearing it over and over. My wife is always correcting me when I say "the Watchtower" or "the society"' Old habits die hard.