To Redvip 2000
As other have said, you don't get to define what atheism means for everybody. My type of belief is not regulated by what is written on a dictionary. But even your interpretation is wrong. Stop making leaps base on your custom interpretation. It's making you look like a tool.
When it comes to the deity question there are only three positions one can take. 1 Theist, 2 Atheist, 3 Agnostic. Position 1 and 2 either affirms or denies the existence of deity and has to provide support. Position three is the only one that gets to sit on the fence. Amazing how many want to be identified as atheist but then want to change the definition. What it comes down to is that many want to deny the existence of deity based on irrationality, but want to continue ontologically with theistic ideas. Following Atheism to a logical conclusion there is no meaning or purpose in life, no objective morality. Basically want to sit on the fence with the Agnostic and reap the benefits of both sides of the debate. I say man up. If Atheist embrace everything that is Atheist. Cut the umbilical cord from Theism, and go happily into oblivion with fear and despair to which only a Nietzsche or a Jean Paul Sartre can do full justice.
We don't know. What a simple amazing concept that is....not knowing. Much better than pretending you know by crow-barring a made up sky daddy into the equation.
In this lecture, I would like to discuss whether time itself has a beginning, and whether it will have an end. All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning, about 15 billion years ago. This is probably the most remarkable discovery of modern cosmology. Yet it is now taken for granted… But if your theory disagrees with the Second Law of Thermodynamics, it is in bad trouble. In fact, the theory that the universe has existed forever is in serious difficulty with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The Second Law, states that disorder always increases with time. Like the argument about human progress, it indicates that there must have been a beginning. Otherwise, the universe would be in a state of complete disorder by now, and everything would be at the same temperature… The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago. The beginning of real time, would have been a singularity, at which the laws of physics would have broken down.
The Beginning of Time. A Lecture by Stephen Hawking
According to the leading expert the point of singularity would have to have been supernatural.
And even if there was a god, and since he supposedly exists, what caused him to exist then? Or are you arbitrarily saying the same rule doesn't apply to him? Cause if you do, then i'll arbitrarily do the same for the universe.
Who make the watchmaker?
•Necessary or Contingent =
Things that exist necessarily exist by a necessity of their own nature. It belongs to their very nature to exist.
Things that exist contingently can fail to exist and so need an external cause to explain why they do in fact exist.
• there are two kind of things;
[a] things that exist necessarily exist by a necessity of their own nature. It is impossible for them not to exist. Many mathematicians think that number sets, and other mathematical entities exist in this way. The are not caused to exist by something else.
[b] Things that are produced by some external cause. Things that re caused to exist by something else do not exist necessarily. They exist because something else has produced them. Familiar physical objects like people, planets, and galaxies belong in this category.
o everything that exists has an explanation of its existence, the explanation may be found either in the necessity of a thing’s nature or else in some external cause.
• The explanation of God’s existence lies in the necessity of His own nature, it is impossible for God to have a cause.
{William Craig}