To Half banana
I do not have Adamic
sin or any other defects curable by holy beliefs. I have no need for fairy
tales to give me existential hope. You make a grave error in believing that the
scriptures are something which we should respond to. I greatly resent the idea
that I should be grateful to an unknowable god for allowing me to live! Listen
to yourself and realize that you are thoughtlessly repeating tired old
religious spin, something which can never be proved and therefore of no use
except in religious jingoism.
There is an interesting thing about life, it is that it does
not start with reason and ends with faith. A child’s mind is very limited and
does not inform the child for the reason of her trust, but as she runs into her
father’s arms she does so because of an unspoken trust that those arms will
hold her. A child begins with faith that is then proven by reason. Over time
that trust will be tested, and it is the character of the parent that will
establish that trust to be wise. One starts life believing in Santa, The Tooth
Fairy, Zeus, maybe the Flying Spaghetti Monster but overtime reason proves them
wrong. My faith has substance, it is rational, based on the confirmed knowledge
that Jesus has proven who He claims to be, God incarnate. Some accept by faith,
I by reason. My faith is not orphaned by reason.
What is considered credible ancient text?
Caesar written 1 century BC, earliest copy 900 AD, number of
copies 10
Tacitus written 1 century AD, earliest copy 1100 AD, number
of copies 20
Thucydides written 5 century BC, earliest copy 900AD, number
of copies 8
Demosthenes written 4 century BC, earliest copy 1100 AD,
number of copies 200
Homer written 9 century BC, 643 copies 95% accurate.
All considered credible by scholars.
New Testament 1 century AD [50-100], earliest copy 2 century
AD [100-130] number of copies from antiquity 5000, accuracy 99%, partial
manuscripts 19000, quotations by the early church fathers 86000.
What is the probability they got it all wrong?
And you believe it is not trustworthy?
It has been established that what we have, which was written
in the first century is credible. The question now is, “Is it true?”
One example: It is an established fact that Jesus did exist,
was killed and buried in Jerusalem. That the “Christian” movement did start in
the city where He was buried based on the claim of His Resurrection. It is one
thing to preach the resurrection of an individual thousands of miles, and hundreds
of years from the event, it is another to preach the resurrection of an
individual in the very city and the same time of His death, and not only succeeded,
but grow into one of the largest faiths in this world. They could have easily been proven wrong by producing the body, or an corpse. Why was none ever produced?
Paul's words were
useful in recruiting for the early Christ cult and therefore selected for duty
in the Roman Bible to rouse followers to action. It is only the the poor
peasants who were led to believe this foundationless nonsense. They ditched
reason for an impossible hope in a saviour figure who was renamed Jesus around
175 CE. We have moved away from peasantry.
Do you have any proof of this?
Name me one person who has actually overcome death as
promised in the Bible. Two thousand years, countless billions of people born
and still no results yet!
Wrong, where does the Bible promise one overcomes death?