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  WTS Ed.Center-Pacific .20 millions dollar...

  by MacHislopp in

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  mililani technology park.

  mililani, hawaii 96789. phone: (808) 539-7653 .

  mililani technology park.

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  stephenw20

  its not an assemble hall

  its the (now get this name)
  Watchtower Educational Center - Pacific

  A multi-national, nonprofit Bible educational group, the Watchtower will use its new 53,000-square-foot building at MTP for its Watchtower Educational Center - Pacific. The educational center will be comprised of four conference rooms and one auditorium equipped with multimedia audio/visual equipment with multi-language capabilities to accommodate conferences, seminars and training classes......

  Maybe its just me...but would it not be MORE ECONOMICAL to have an EDUCATIONAL center where its CHEAPER to fly, and where its able to be DRIVEN TO?

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  PLEASE READ ME! I'm not sure where to post....

  by d0rkyd00d in

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  i'm so glad i am finally allowed to post my messages.

  they have been building up for quite some time, since the other message board wouldn't let me register because i felt uncomfortable putting what congregation i was with at the time in the appropriate box.

  i'd like to start off by saying i love this discussion board, and i'm glad so many people are finding help here.

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  stephenw20

  d0rkyd00d,
  welcome , your questions are all so wonderful to debate.......

  I'd like to start by asking you to take a rubber ball, hold it in your hand, stand in and empty room, now remove your hand, what happens to the ball?

  does it fall? I cant say yes or no I amnot there. When I do it it falls..........well the earth doesn't fall.......so what SENSE does that make? none

  Its easy to PICK apart the divine , if we feel ,beleive , think that this ...the thing we see inthe mirro is the end of the line....... if that is allwe can surmise , I agree it seems ridiculous to have gone through the exercise in the first place, which when we read , GOd knows the hearts of men, did he not know Adams outcome......

  in my most humblest opinion its ALL his plan, we may not like it we certainly have trouble understanding it, but they are after all HIS BALLS floating in the air..

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  What Do Un-Believers Not Believe?

  by mensa163 in

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  one of the things that used to annoy me in the new testament was the "believe in jesus" message.

  any explainations seemed fuzzy at best so i decided to take a run at it from behind and find the definintion of an un-believer.here is what i came up with and i welcome other opinions.

  many of the people around jesus were jews, they walked with him, talked with him, listened to his teachings and witnessed his miracles.

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  there has been much discussion about this, in fact thereis debate over the issue as to whether JESUS/Emmanuel
  which means as said below
  Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

  Many feel that the one who talked to Adam, to Noah to Abraham was the same guy. The storngs concordance seems to support this view, that Jesus being the firstborn of all creation all things coming to be from him.

  Luk 1:3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very ~first,~ to write unto thee in order,
  The footnote to this indicates that Luke unlike Matthew and John did not witness all these things himself..but got the understanding form the First or from Jesus in spirit , as Paul did.

  Which brings up another interesting point, Luke is the only one of the (4) gospels to mention what the evildoer say about being in paradise. John was there with Mary , but he did not record it. Does any one think that with the crowds that gathered around this scene, anyone could have heard what Jesus was saying to his fellow hangers , being ten ft up in the air.

  mensa163 great question!
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  Elders' Gems of Wisdom

  by stephenw20 in

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  my dad asked the co about this one.

  mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .

  and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

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  I will state this as wisdom................

  in 1985 My dad after having been the cheese......left his book bag filled with the publications, in the hall and proceeded nto never again visit the congregation.

  of course a few years later....he felt the need and came back.......but he wont do the elder thang no more..........

  well he was wise for a few years anyway! poor guy
  I love the fela!
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  Why...

  by Simon in

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  ...is no one posting here?.

  ok, i'll be the first !

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  stephenw20

  But 7

  I have left the room at least twice *S*

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  WTS Ed.Center-Pacific .20 millions dollar...

  by MacHislopp in

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  mililani technology park.

  mililani, hawaii 96789. phone: (808) 539-7653 .

  mililani technology park.

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  stephenw20

  again I asked this a week ago?
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  WTS and Charitable Annuity Companies

  by MacHislopp in

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  hello, it is me again.. i have a question: what does it means under the usa laws to.

  be registered as: charitable annuity companies?.

  (see partial list below).. .

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  stephenw20

  I asked the same question a week ago ..........
  let me know if you find anything

  TY
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  How hard is it to kill a Fortune 500 company?

  by newguy in

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  it seems to be the dream of many here to put the wt corperation out of business.

  well, i hate to throw a bucket of cold water called reality on your dreams, but it is not likely to happen anytime soon.. the wt society has annual reveune of about $2.5 billion.

  that figure was from recent disclosures they had to file as a not-for-profit company.

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  Ginny

  excellent post....I like your calm and reason.....
  educating and warning the public should be the deal.....

  the public can decide for itself.

  the educating of the present witnesses who have doubts is also a primary tool.....dominos tend to fall, no matter how straight they stand, once there shaken.

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  How hard is it to kill a Fortune 500 company?

  by newguy in

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  it seems to be the dream of many here to put the wt corperation out of business.

  well, i hate to throw a bucket of cold water called reality on your dreams, but it is not likely to happen anytime soon.. the wt society has annual reveune of about $2.5 billion.

  that figure was from recent disclosures they had to file as a not-for-profit company.

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  NG,
  Thanks for the stats, can we have the source so we may put it in our flyer to our neighbors?

  Sure they are big. How did they start sir?
  How did apple start?

  hmmmmm

  cant tell you if any billion dollar corp has got brought to its knees.......
  but that is irrelavent.

  if you think money is all that matters, I t would surpise me if you have children.

  no amount can make up for a child that is abused.........
  do you think the community local lawmakers and the US supreme court have no interest in public safety of children.

  nature and time proves one thing, NO ONE is untouchable.

  nice to see your comments
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  can you stop the preaching work

  by stephenw20 in

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  in light of the recent media on the pdophiles with in the organization and the wtbts stand on how these shoulld be dealt with , especailly in states where there is no law regarding reporting this to authorities.,............does any one here feel the neighborhood, town council or neighborhood watch in their town might have interest in know ing , child molestors are walking thier side walks.. .

  knowing that summer is coming and lots of outdoor activities along with children being out of school, the community i am sure would like to know who is knocking on their door.. after all, how many pedophiles get an opportunity to get into the community and actually see homes where kids live , see the surrounding s of the house, all in such an innocent trusted manner....put your self at that door answering it with this person at the door.......if you knew this.

  can we go door to door after the witnesses are there to say.....by the way the folks who were just here, are part of an organization that shields pedophiles, and doesnt come clean with even its own members as to whothe said offender is .........perhaps a petition against the house to house could be signed......and then offered to local officals.

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  NG

  Yes i have heard of the Supreme Court and the freedom of speech is not being challenged.

  The ordinance SPECIFICALY states :

  Any person, organization, society, or association of a charitable , religious, patriotic,philanthropic or community nature and having its residence or principal place of business in town

  this ~is~ about religious groups specifically.
  I can apprecaite your point about the big court ...

  however these towns with lawmakers and councilmen have homes with kids in them and they arent going to want any person or group that is not forthcoming about themselves posing a threat to children on their doorstep.

  the courts are littered with battles between the big court and little court....and this will be just one more.

  Freedom of speech doesnt extend to my front doorstep when the one talking is a child molestor telling me he has a new hope for me!

  Welcome to our forum.

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