WTDeserter

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  Which Spirit is the God's Spirit in the 2nd Baptismal VOW?

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. scandals

  hi guys i need some help here and wonder if any of you can offer some comments .the second baptismal question is :"do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?

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  which spirit are they talking about since it is not refered to as the holy spirit?.

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  Wines and Spirits? :)
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  Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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  It is working, just have to open it on a new tab of window.

  Sorry I'm not experienced in this kind of stuff, like public file sharing.
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  Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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  First link doesn't seem to work, hope this one does:

  
  

  file storage
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  Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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  Here is a link to the Anonymous pdf book:

  http://www.filedropper.com/weareanonymousinsidethehackerworldoflulzse

  No reference to the WTS but shows their views on pedophilia and their treatment of Scientology. The book also shows that its not really what one would call a group, its more like a spontanously organised on-line task force.
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  Anonymous Message (YouTube) to Jehovah's Witnesses: #OpWatchtower - January 18, 2013

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.

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  Something tells me the WT is in deep sh1t now! Read the Anonymous book and I can imagine what will happen or has already happened. I anyone is interested I have the book in PDF form.
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  Do you ever think about what you think about? Or--NOT!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1.undeserved kindness (grace).

  ask yourself why you don't deserve kindness.. if god says you don't deserve something and he gives it to you anyway...who is the conflicted party here??

  who is breaking his own moral code?.

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  Very good post Terry!
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  Is God to blame for pedophilia?

  by WTDeserter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the waves made my pedophilia in the catholic church and the wts i did a small research to see what is written in the bible about the matter, and was surprised to see pedophilia is not in the thou shalt not list.. there are some verses that indirectly suggest not to do such a thing: and whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

  - mark 9:42.. but pedophilia is not clearly condemned!.

  the bible clearly condemns (among others) sex between, man - man, woman - woman, man - beast, woman - beast, etc.

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  mP you made the point!
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  JW,s are told to investigate this site or similar sites to overcome objections.

  by jam in

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  2. beliefs

  how many would remain as jw,s in fact how many would continue to.

  believe in god?

  i estimate 75% would leave the cult and.

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  Where is the information from? I mean that JWs should investigate apost8 sites?
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  Is God to blame for pedophilia?

  by WTDeserter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the waves made my pedophilia in the catholic church and the wts i did a small research to see what is written in the bible about the matter, and was surprised to see pedophilia is not in the thou shalt not list.. there are some verses that indirectly suggest not to do such a thing: and whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

  - mark 9:42.. but pedophilia is not clearly condemned!.

  the bible clearly condemns (among others) sex between, man - man, woman - woman, man - beast, woman - beast, etc.

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  Thank you for your comments!

  Please do not misunderstand, I had no intention to say pedophiles are not responsible for their actions, the point I wanted to make is that the Bible does not condem it.
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  Is God to blame for pedophilia?

  by WTDeserter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the waves made my pedophilia in the catholic church and the wts i did a small research to see what is written in the bible about the matter, and was surprised to see pedophilia is not in the thou shalt not list.. there are some verses that indirectly suggest not to do such a thing: and whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

  - mark 9:42.. but pedophilia is not clearly condemned!.

  the bible clearly condemns (among others) sex between, man - man, woman - woman, man - beast, woman - beast, etc.

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  With all the waves made my pedophilia in the Catholic Church and the WTS I did a small research to see what is written in the Bible about the matter, and was surprised to see pedophilia is not in the “thou shalt not” list.

  There are some verses that indirectly suggest not to do such a thing: “And whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” - Mark 9:42.

  But pedophilia is not clearly condemned!

  The Bible clearly condemns (among others) sex between, man - man, woman - woman, man - beast, woman - beast, etc. But pedophilia is not in the list, it doesn't say: You should not lay with a child as you would lay with a woman.

  And this is true for both the OT and NT.

  I have not read the Koran, but with Mohamed having Aisha as his wife at age 9, I would assume the Koran doesn’t condemn pedophilia either. So this would be true of all Abrahamic religions.

  Did I miss something, perhaps there is a verse hidden somewhere, or is God to blame for pedophilia for not clearly setting guidelines, commandments on the subject?