Posts by Sunchild

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Atheists/Agnostics/Prayer

by patio34 in

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on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.

i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.

prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.

As I read through all of this, I wonder, "Does it matter?" There might be a supernatural personage somewhere in the universe that watches over all of us... and there might not be. Prayer might simply be a conversation with another part of your own psyche... and it might not be. I don't know, and to me, it doesn't really matter.

All I know for certain is that saying a prayer to the Goddess (my deity of choice) makes me feel better, and life seems to make a little more sense. No, I don't expect or even ask for Her to solve all of my problems, but... my conversations with Her have never caused me any harm, and they often help me find a strength I never knew I had.

I don't really care what others believe as long as they don't bother me with it, but I've found something that feels right to me. As long as your beliefs enhance your reality instead of simply blinding you to it, what difference does it make?

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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Only Supposin'.

by Englishman in

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just suppose that jw's had got it right about 1975, and that we are now in the 26th year of the 1000 year reign.. so, how are we spending our time?.

i guess that we're not watching boxing on the telly.

probably not enjoying any barbecues with the meat eating ban.

Sunchild

So, here's my question: Assuming that 1975 was the year that armageddon destroyed most of mankind, what particular thing or activity would you need to be present in the new order, for you to be able to feel as ecstatically happy as those rejoicing dubs that feature so prominently in the WTBTS's publications?

<g> I wasn't born until December 18th of that year, so to me, it wouldn't really matter WHAT remained. Besides, the first Nintendo system wasn't invented until the mid-80s.

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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New field service tactics!

by NikL in

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new regular pioneer techniques .

these are untried and untested techniques to get .

they're called goats in the bible.

Sunchild

When I read this post (and I recognized it from WOL), my first reaction was, "What kind of a-hole would even think something like this?" Then I looked back on my first three years as a JW and realized that, back then, I would've found those same remarks hilarious -- not because they're so outlandish, but because that's what I was actually thinking.

I don't think that Witnesses have the slightest clue how arrogant and obnoxious they are. They just can't. If they did, they'd realize that the "persecution" they endure is typically given with good reason.

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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WE WON!!!!

by mommy in

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hey all you lovely people.

i just want to scream it out loud!

we won!

Sunchild

I don't know what this is about, but... congratulations!

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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To Mommy (Wendy) & Prisca

by LoneWolf in

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to wendy & prisca,.

you badly misjudged both my intentions and what i wrote.

isnt that exactly what ive been saying all along and the reason that i posted in the first place?

Sunchild

LoneWolf,

I don't know you well enough to have a strong opinion of you one way or the other, and I know your post wasn't addressed to me. I think you're an okay guy, though, and certainly not the root of all sexism. And I think I do know you well enough to say this much: The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

I can tell you're trying to make things better, but the more you go on about this issue, the worse things will get. Not everyone you meet will like, support, accept, agree with or even want or try understand you. It's a fact of life. So, why not just cut your losses and move on to something else?

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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Celebrate with me today

by Esmeralda in

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today, april 20th, is the fourth anniversary of a very special day in my life.. the anniversary of my rebirth.. this rebirth was not a religious experience, but it was something totally pure, amazing and healing.. it had nothing at all to do with the society, or rather, of freeing myself from it.

it was however, a giant first step in that direction.. today is the fourth anniversary of the day i got letter that changed everything.

the words on the pages were alive, and magical: they released me from my old life and for the first time.

Sunchild

Aww, Es, that's so wonderful! You and your hubby are so lucky to have found each other, and to share such love between you. Congratulations to you both on your special day.

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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Women are COWS!

by JanH in

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when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her.

body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.. young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.. if they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the.

permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed.. the bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place.

Sunchild

Dedalus,

My mom was wondering how the bovine metaphor would apply to lesbians ... guess we'll have to wait for another brilliant nature analogy for that one!

<snicker> Y'know, before I stepped in right in a big, steaming pile of The Truth, I, like many 16-year-old girls, had a boyfriend. He was sweet, good-looking, charming and a wonderful friend, and he was DEFINITELY interested in me in every sense of the word. Interestingly enough, we never went past kissing. I just never wanted to; I thought it was because, as much as I liked him, he just wasn't "The One."

Before the boyfriend was some guy I'd known before who I made out with in a shopping mall. (He was good-looking, I guess; he looked like a guy who most girls would find attractive.) Anyway, he liked it; I felt absolutely nothing, even though plenty of other girls had told me it was fun. As with the boyfriend, I assumed that it didn't feel right because he wasn't The One.

Many years later, I had a best friend -- a girl. One day, she kissed me, and I swear that I saw fireworks and heard the sound of violins. I FINALLY knew what all the fuss was about, and to be honest, it took everything both of us had to keep our clothes on through the end of the day. Even though we're just friends again and I don't think we're in love, it's still all but impossible for us not to steal a kiss now and then.

Since I'm pretty sure that this has absolutely nothing to do with making babies, I'm every bit as curious as your mother is!

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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JW humour

by expatbrit in

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field service humour: http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000271.

all together now: ha....ha....ha..... expatbrit

Sunchild

I only have one thing to say: There, but for the grace of the Goddess, go I.

*Rochelle, glad to be out.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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belly up to the bar, guys and gals

by unanswered in

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with all the confrontation/negativity on the board these last few weeks, maybe we all need to sit back and have a drink, or a cup of tea or coffee, if alcohol's not for you.. seriously, i'm not trying to pretend that i haven't gotten caught up in the negativity at times, or trivialize important issues/feelings, but things haven't been as fun, lately.

i've noticed a change even in the short time i've been posting.

i didn't start this topic to point fingers or to act like my opinion is somehow special, but wouldn't it be nice for all of us to see an increase in civility?.

Sunchild

Unanswered, I'd like to thank you for posting this, too. I've been thinking along the same lines.

I know emotions can run high in a place like this, and I know that new arrivals can sometimes make a... "less than favorable" first impression. But I don't quite see the point of verbally bludgeoning people first and asking questions later.

Oh, and as long as I'm here, I'll have a Shirley Temple.

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

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The Long Goodbye......

by hillary_step in

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after a transatlantic discussion with my wife we have both reached the conclusion that we will not be posting to this board again.

though we see the board as serving a useful purpose for some, it does not at present suit the path that we have chosen to walk to extract ourselves from the wts.. this board is in an invaluable place for those of you who have recently left the wts and need a place to stretch your wings and share you hurt and pain.

but once we learn to fly, it seems important that we should leave the nest as quickly as possible, lest we become caught in a vacuum between the wts and real life.

Sunchild

HS, I'm sorry you feel you have to leave, though I understand your reasons. And truth be told, I DON'T understand why some members gave you such a hostile welcome. No, I don't agree with every single word you've said (that would be rare indeed), but I don't see anything disagreeable about the way you've presented your views. Unless I missed something, you haven't yelled at anyone or called anyone names, or even been disrespectful. ::scratches her head:: Must be something in the water.

Well, in any case, goodbye and good luck!

*Rochelle.

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"Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
-- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."