the second one was from an orthodox christian's blog, btw
kassad84
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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kassad84
The truly Christian answer is never an appeal to some grander plan or the mystery of God’s will. At the foundation of any Christian metaphysics is the idea that God is, and therefore wills, only absolute goodness, and that evil has no ‘genuine’ existence, but is only a perversion of what is good.
Often it seems as if the only possible responses in the face of evil and suffering are “It is God’s will” or “Shit happens”. But we rightly recoil from both of these views, and there is a third that matches more closely the longings and groans that prompt even our condemnation of God: that evil is unnatural, that the death of a child is not right, that things are not supposed to be this way.
And this is precisely the message of the New Testament: that our world is in some sense fallen, that it is governed by principalities and powers which are foreign to it, that death is an enemy, and that God himself is engaged in a war against it.
Such a view may be false. It may be just wishful thinking. But it is not simplistic. And it is a view (to my mind the only view) that takes seriously our outcry against fate and death and suffering and easy answers.
http://onancientpaths.tumblr.com/post/79128370317/thoughtsandsquats-i-just-want-to-apologize-to
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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kassad84
Only read a couple of the opening pages, and I am not sure if this point has already been raised. Just throwing a few cents here - not sure if it is stupid either.
For those that says God doesn't do anything but exist, Christianity answers that He chose to come down as a man through the person of Christ and choose suffer with us. emmanuel. God has been laboring and still laboring to change the hearts and will of men unto himself, because this is the essential thing, the core of the problem - to turn the will of his creatures back to Him. Imagine if God chose to protect people from natural disasters. What then? Even if the whole world turns into paradise right now, it will be useless and a mockery if there are still murderers, rapists, covetousness, and a whole lot of diseases we have in our hearts that causes us to hurt each other.
When will God act? That will always be a stumbling block. I believe, if God does exist, we are in no position to dictate or to direct what should be done next. Abraham waited 25 years (and after that God asked him to sacrifice the very thing he waited for;the will is what's important). The nation of Israel waited 300 years in bondage. And many others. Though, this will be nonsense if you believe that the Bible is a fairy tale. And so God is a fairy tale, and the discussion ends there. I think this is arrogant, because the fact that these events may have happened a long time ago, we won't simply know because we were not there, no matter how many history and acheological books we have read, we won't simply know the whole truth, there's always something that's left undiscovered, errors that will be corrected. And so it is with God. A little caution is never bad.
The Bible says God is Love, I believe that. It also says, every knee shall bow to Him, and every tongue will praise Him. He will do something magnificent that all of this hurt we are talking about right now will be nothing, He will exhibit mercy so magnificent that we will be ashamed of ourselves, of the way we have talked and acted against Him. And then He will welcome us back treat us as equals
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"you're pretty compassionate for an atheist"
by Hortensia inmy favorite compliment of the day.
what a lot of assumptions people have about what makes an atheist tick..
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kassad84
He said to His disciples, "It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble.
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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.
ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.
london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.
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kassad84
Of course they did because if you ask any breathing Jew today they will show you from the sources that JESUS WAS A FALSE PROPHET, you just use your own version of Christianity without acknowledging what those of the Jewish faith have to say on the matter. Further this substantiates the claim that Roman authorities were tring to control people of the Jewish faith because if you understood the reasons why Pilate condemned Jesus you would know that Jesus is a lunatic for doing what he did during the Jewish traditions.
Sometimes it's all about saving face, and paying respects to the Elders
"Later rabbis had to defend the (originally non-unanimous) vote of the first century Sanhedrin which tried and convicted Jesus of apostasy, heresy and fraud. Why? It was inconceivable that the Elders of Israel would make such a colossal mistake as repudiating God's Mashiach and turning him over to Goyim to be executed.
Without questioning, without opening the documents of the case, later rabbis accepted what their teachers—and their teachers and their teachers—believed to be a right legal decision regarding the young rabbi from Nazareth. They repeated and thus validated the original ruling as the authoritative Jewish position for all time."
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When did Theology Last add something to Human Knowledge?
by cofty into illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.
the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.
by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.
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kassad84
Hospitals and universities are examples of institutions founded by the catholic church. One of the greatest contributor to today's current theories in Physics was a man very religious man named Isaac Newton.
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The End Of The Anglo American World Power
by metatron inhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-13/chinas-official-press-agency-calls-new-reserve-currency.
china is openly calling for the end of us political and economic dominance of the world.
they ain't playin'.
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kassad84
watch out for war..
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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.
ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.
london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.
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kassad84
Adam, its been great talking to you, thanks
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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.
ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.
london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.
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kassad84
How about EXPECTING ALL authors to have certain biases, but then plan on using YOUR OWN judgment and reasoning capabilities to reach YOUR conclusion, after weighing ALL available evidence to examine all sides of an issue in a comprehensive manner?
Yes, but aside from applying judgement and reasoning capabilities and trusting on your own abilities, i also have these personal experiences of God, unexplainable, maybe even ridiculous if told (which I am doing right now). Prayers quickly answered in a day, signs of forgiveness shown on early mornings when nobody else is around, birds landing and seemingly peeking on your office window on the top floor many times for a period of days, reminding you everytime of the Sermon in the mount, things like these, simple, ridiculous, coincidental to most, but for me are signs of the Divine.
As one man once said, "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."
cheers Adam! :)
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Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.
ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.
london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.
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kassad84
Of course you don't want to disprove it: you want to let your pre-accepted conclusion lead the actual evidence (and at least you're honest enough to admit that you want to believe what you want to believe). Hence you're not going to let little inconvenient things (like historical evidence and facts, or even understanding what your own Holy Bible says!) get in your way!
Well I guess I am more concerned about authors who are already atheists in the first place and what they eventually write will create (intended or intended) biases that will support their already decided positions. I will have to look through these authors and pick those who wrote with an unbiased approach (if that is even possible)