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  My "best" friend (active JW) has just died

  by Terry in

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  johnny santa cruz and i met around 1959 at a movie theater in fort worth, texas.. the purpose of that meeting was to create a fanclub for horror movie director william castle.

  a week or so later, johnny stopped me as i was walking home from elementary school.. "hey--i think i know you.

  weren't you at the william castle fanclub thing?".

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  Hecce

  My condolences

  RIP Johnny
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  Did you participate in a Drama?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

  camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

  we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

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  Hecce

  One thing that happened a lot during the dramas were mistakes, most of the time the participants were aware of them, but not the audience . Some other mistakes were plain and simple to see, like having an actor wearing glasses or a watch on a biblical drama.
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  Did you participate in a Drama?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

  camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

  we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

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  Hecce

  It seems like the dramas were too much fun for the audience and also the participants. We can't have that here, better to use that time digging trenches and building KH.
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  Did you participate in a Drama?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

  camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

  we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

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  Hecce

  Cadellin compound complex

  I think that the drama that you are referring as Exodus and the Zimri one is the same that I am calling the Moses drama.

  stuckinarut2

  My experience was the different, one of the few places where it felt like everybody was equal and you could laugh at the mistakes and gaffes of even the heavy duty guys.

  
  
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  Did you participate in a Drama?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

  camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

  we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

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  Hecce

  I am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience. Camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.

  Back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program. We had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation. Some of them were spectacular, I remember the one about Moses that was called by the friends the “Ten Commandments”; it ran 90 minutes and you needed about a hundred participants. On the same program there was one about the Apostle Paul that was 120 minutes long.

  I have been told that during his time at Bethel Raymond Franz was closely involved with the dramas and that after his departure some of the old friends decided to decrease their frequency and relevance. The truth is that little by little they were curtailed and today for all practical purposes they are gone, my understanding is that a video replaced the live representation.

  Being honest for sure it was a lot of work and effort, but for the majority it was a fun occasion.

  So if you know some internal details about the dramas or were a participant or director, please share your experiences with us.

  Thanks for reading
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  Fidel Castro and the WT

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.

  you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.

  during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.

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  A had a query about the torture and reports that some of the friends were forced to dig their own graves.

  This is true, what happened is they were forced to do it; were put in front of firing squads and shot with blanks. Sometimes they did this to them more than once.

  Other forms of torture included:

  Sleep deprivation.

  Hunger for days.

  Beatings.

  Buried in the ground up to their necks and left there for more than one day.

  At least a case of a young brother that was stabbed with a bayonet.

  Being forced to be naked or in their underwear for refusing to wear the military uniform.

  The model followed was that of the Russian concentration camps, at that time the Security methods were Soviet all the way.

  Barbaric and sadistic.
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  Diddling, adjusting, changing Doctrines? Why not leave it alone?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have kept on asking myself why the jw's put targets on themselves by constant diddling with their own doctrines?

  why not leave it alone?.

  mainstream christianity has fixed teachings.

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  Hecce

  I think the members of the GB are on an ego trip and they cannot be any less than the previous ones, if they fiddle around they have to fiddle too.
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  PAINTING THEMSELVES INTO A CORNER or WHY was the "GENERATION" teaching started in the 1st place?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  setting the scene.

  pastor russell died in 1916. those who had 'followed' him were known pejoratively as russellites.

  you could call it a 'cult of personality' if you wanted to sneer.

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  Hecce

  Thanks, just brilliant
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  New Light - Two Sticks in Ezekiel - July 2016 Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ezekiel 37:15-17 prophesies about two sticks being joined together to become 1. one stick represented the two tribe kingdom of judah and the other stick represented the 10 tribe of israel (ephraim).

  the article explains how the coming together of these two sticks meant the reuniting of these tribes in 537 bce.the modern day fulfillment was previously taught to mean that the anointed had once again come together in unity in these last days.the july watchtower now explains that one stick, the stick of judah, represents the anointed and the other stick, the stick of ephraim, represents the other sheep.

  they further explain that since 1919 god's people have gradually reunited to become one flock.they are now saying that the other sheep are represented by 10 tribes of israel.

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  Hecce

  YADA, YADA, YADA.
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  Can a DFed person donate?

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rereading a post re the shunning wt in feb made me think, do the wt accept money from the dead?

  not inheritances but from the "living dead" as they perceive df and da people to be.. personally i think they accept or more correctly badger members who are really brain dead into giving.

  or do attendants guard contribution boxes to stop such non existent people from putting money in.

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  Hecce

  Al Capone can donate.