Posts by Hecce

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PRESS RELEASE: This is not over, on the contrary. I do not retract.

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

i appreciate all the expressions of interest and solidarity.

it has been a very intense week.

i started with the help of many of you, a particular war for my rights as a european citizen.. we have achieved an important space and advertising with a single complaint, which is a great success that i share with you all.. the press has not only spoken about a single complaint, but they gave a full coverage on asocial behavior of jehovah's witnesses and the last, a very hard editorial from the newspaper el periodico director (link).

Hecce

Good, be discreet as to what you are doing. Don't tip your hand.

Thanks

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

The latest from the SF

Hedmanos, we have lost this battle, we have not lost the war. An anonymous source has informed me that tomorrow, starting at 20 h. the same media publish a rectification of all published and publicly asking Miquel to recant to avoid a lawsuit by the Watch. We have lost this battle, but never lose the war.

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

darkspilver

The information published in the Spanish Forum is not too clear and specific, it is sadly full of jargon that is not relevant but confusing. I hope that they will come here and publish a clarification of what has happened, I am not going to be speculating and trying to decipher what they are writing.

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

Rough Google translation:

No more NEWS IN NEWSPAPERS, AGAIN achievers.

We are not referring to you indolent geriatric ajalvireño, which teneís incontinence and stained Let all seats. Indolent the Committee still palomino Su-cu-cu-ru-cu-cu WatchSpain receive the news on Monday,

we: apostasíaibérica we communicate to all hedmandad, right now. Yes, we very expensive lawyers (not the Department of Service) of the Watch of 452 5th Ave, New York, the dollar equals 500 hours more per year.

If, newspaper editor and examine all documents sent from the United States and there is nothing more, in the vernacular, again Watch has managed to silence a problem.

Today is a day of mourning for freedom of expression, GeoBAR mutes and purchase, such as victims of abuse in the United States. Ash and mourning, what bothers the laughter that will give the granaino casTHo adulterer

We tried, but we have won all the media plan is canceled immediately.

Miquel must retract all allegations to avoid very costly prosecution.

http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?28382-No-m%C3%A1s-noticias-otra-vez-lo-habeis-logrado

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

This is the latest at the Spanish Forum, it seems that the WT legal has successfully halted the publication of the information in this case. Unable to translate right now.

http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?28382-No-m%C3%A1s-noticias-otra-vez-lo-habeis-logrado

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

Google translation from the Spanish Forum:

Victims of abuse in Spain

Congratulations to the victim who has had the courage to publicly denounce the harassment of worship of Jehovah's Witnesses.

I join the initiative of James B. (I beg contact me via PM)

All victims in Spain can and should speak, it is a personal catharsis, someone has taken the first step, double page in the paper, with pictures and videos, with first denied damn letter and then taken over by the so-called Judicial Committee.

I congratulate Miquel to bring the issue to the Catalan police and the prosecution. BUT NOW THE REST OF VICTIMS SHOULD TALK.

It is not an attack on any belief, religion or god, is the need that the neo-religion made in USA change its rules to criminalize asocial minority and to stop imposing the criminalization and isolation of opponents of Jehovah God witness.

Mr. James B. I beg contact me via PM and we can join efforts to help victims of child abuse of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Spokesmen for Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain lie more than talk, do you think that Spanish journalists do not know that all forms of expulsion are in digital format and sent to the national headquarters via the jw.org?

So what do they play? To continue manipulating its 90,000 devotees?

investigator

http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?28363-Victimas-de-abusos-en-Espa%C3%B1a

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

darkspilver

Mr. Garcia is a gifted individual and I am pretty sure that he will provide more information and documentation on the subject.

As far as expectations I think that I know what you mean, I was expecting during the buildup a more sympathetic victim, I know that the people behind this effort have been working to get Spanish victims to come forward, some of them are sharing in private but none has accepted going public. Maybe the interview will change the situation.

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

darkspilver

One observation, the individuals involved in this case are not professionals. They are common people doing the best that they can to shine light on the WT conduct. The press will present facts on the manner that they think will sell more papers, they are not going to publish a transcript word by word of their conversations with Mr. Garcia.

Please keep in mind that this is a situation that has been developing for years, like the matter of the records removal was something triggered by Spanish Law and not related to the actual situation.

In the end I support these people and I am happy that they broke thru the "Maginot Line".

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

Google translation from Spanish to English:

SKC: SKD September 17, 2016

TO CERTAIN BODIES OF ELDERS OF THE AREA LOS ANGELES

Dear brothers:

It is very exciting to witness the rapid growth of the visible part of Jehovah’s organization. This has resulted in a greater need for worthy places of worship, as Jehovah continues to accelerate the collection of "a mighty nation" (Isaiah 60:22).

In keeping with the instructions of the Governing Body to fully utilize Kingdom Halls, the branch has analyzed the particular needs of your area. To this end, it held a special meeting with circuit overseers and bodies of local elders, and discussed with them several important factors. For example, attendance to meetings with many seats in the main auditorium and auxiliary rooms, as well as the limits of the territory and the location of the publishers was compared. In this way, the branch has been able to determine whether an auditorium could be better utilized by merging congregations, moving them to another Kingdom Hall or the possibility of building a new Kingdom Hall (See the book Organized, page 112, paragraph 16).

We wish to inform you that, in accordance with a plan that covers your area, your congregation will participate directly in an adjustment that will include neighboring congregations. Under the direction of the branch, the local circuit overseers and bodies of elders will implement the details. We want to assure that giving attention to these matters, the brothers will be guided by love and interest in each of you. You will be informed as soon as the changes are finalized. We hope that this be done within the next few weeks. We are confident that these adjustments will result in spiritual blessings to all congregations in your area. We pray that the Lord continue to guide our efforts to use resources dedicated-two in the best possible way (2 Corinthians 8: 13-15).

Receive our greetings and Christian love.

Your brothers,

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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...

by AndersonsInfo in

announcement from spain:.

on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.

please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.

Hecce

Google translate

GUILLEM SÀNCHEZ / BARCELONA

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2016 - 22:54 IST

Miguel Garcia was born a Jehovah's Witness. It ceased to be when they turn 38 years. Or would stop being so. Now 43 and has gone to the Mossos to report harassment that has suffered since taking the decision to abandon this Christian confession. In this complaint he has revealed something else: he suffered repeated sexual abuse by a member of this community.

Ensures that happened when I was 16, about 1990. Then belonged to a Spanish-speaking congregation that this creed is in Brussels (Belgium). The assailant was a man who kept "a good relationship" with his family and which was "normal" to stay "alone". "I did everything, but there was no penetration," he explained during his interview with the newspaper. At 19, already in Spain, he told the elders of a congregation of Castellar del Vallès he had lived. "They organized a hearing" and the three elders urged him to give "full details".

At the end, he was promised he would receive "spiritual support" but asked him not to file charges, although asegua I made it clear that there were more victims of the same sex offender. "Do not let us bring disgrace to our community," were the words he heard in 1993.

"Do not let us bring disgrace to our community," she says Garcia told him when he revealed sexual abuse

Garcia is convinced that the elderly noted all the information provided at that session-their personal data, the alleged pederast and sexual-abuse and introduced in an envelope. "They kept the original in the archives of the congregation and sent a copy to the headquarters in Madrid," he maintains. He also detailed the Mossos that there are more reports like yours in other Spanish congregations also have been reported.

IT IS NOT AN ISOLATED CASE

Aníbal Matos, a spokesman for Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain-a company with 8.5 million devotees worldwide, 115,000 in Spain and 32,000 in Catalunya- only has adamantly denied that this community has self-managed cases of sexual abuse they have occurred within this religious organization.

"Witnesses respect the law and we have never concealed sexual abuse of a minor or covered any pederast", he noted. Matos has also denied the existence of an alleged file that stores the hypothetical cases of child abuse. "There is no because it would go against the law of protection of personal data," he remarked.

The spokesman, who has himself admitted the existence of court hearings staged by three elders of each congregation (although remarked that are only to give "biblical counseling" to those who need it) wanted to stress that in any case the action of a internal tribunal "excludes" the action of ordinary justice. Should be the elderly themselves "those who give way" to inform authorities before each case.

INTERNAL DOCUMENT

Miguel Garcia, during his interview with this newspaper, has provided a supposed internal document which he said was issued from the national headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in Madrid and that is dated August 1, 2016. The "matter" in question is "protection of children against abuse".

Paragraph 20 of this document, addressed to the elders of each congregation, says "persons related documents on which weighs an allegation of sexual abuse of minors (...) should be stored in an envelope with your name and the annotation 'Do not destroy'. The envelope will be retained indefinitely in the confidential file of the congregation. "