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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

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  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  Steve
  exaggeration, if not a judgement

  None of that, just the truth in regards to the subject matter that was the recent demise of Spanish Forums.

  Now if you want to talk about exaggeration and judgement, look at what this newcomer is saying when comparing Spanish Forums with the English ones:

  What they say that WT grows in the Hispanic languages is a mistake, in which the sites of these networks in both scope and quality are better than those of English-speaking

  Hecce The quality of the sites in Spanish in facebook as in Google+, is not surpassed by any English group, it is, the scope is much greater, since it is social networks with many more followers than the particular blogs.

  I visited the sites that he suggested and I was not impressed at all, I invite our Spanish speaking friends to go in and give their opinion about the high quality of those places. I didn't answer him because I was not interested in any confrontation, I answering your post due to the respect that I have for you.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  StarTrekAngel

  That is exactly the point, we have some quality sites with participants that were traveling overseers, members of the Bethel family, some of them still are. There is credible information coming in, like announcements and letters being published before they are made public. There is a big difference between that type of operation and just getting together to repeat constantly that the Watchtower is "bad".
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  Hecce

  I agree with David Blanco, there are many places to discuss in Spanish and this has been the same for years.

  You are telling the truth as to the existence of many places in English and Spanish related to the WT, but is the quality of the site what is important. The EXTJ forum and then your site were both high quality and that might be a reason as to why they are missed.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  Hecce

  Thanks sp74bb for your detailed explanation about the current events. I admire your effort and the multiple results but I am still sad of the forum closing and the incidents thereafter.

  Corruptgirl thanks for your very concise opinion in this matter.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  StarTrekAngel

  In comparison with the local churches the WT used to be very aggressive in the Spanish communities . Those roles have been reversed, on weekends you will find the evangelicals churches full of happy people and the KH stagnant with robotic members. The evangelicals are providing services full of music, children's services, games, family fairs and outings and a lot of fun activities. At the KH you have the same stale meetings sprinkled with occasional videos and appearances from the Holy Seven.

  Used to be that evangelicals were fleeced by the churches and they still are but right now there is even more fleecing at the KH.

  To make it short, things don't look good at all.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  Hecce

  Researching the subject it seems that some of the dispute has to do with the sexual orientation of the closing site administrator.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Yes, it is a bad situation. As far as the growth, is not as much as before; right now the norm at the Circuit Baptism is less than ten and sometimes as low as one. Historically that was the number for one congregation.
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  Sad news from the Spanish Front

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant watchtower opposition in the spanish field.

  for about 13 years the extj forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year.

  it seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.. after the closing of their forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive.

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  Hecce

  I think the majority of forum friends are aware of the existence of a vibrant Watchtower opposition in the Spanish field. For about 13 years the EXTJ forum was probably the main instrument for that endeavor, sadly the couple sponsoring that site decided to close it at the end of last year. It seems like they were overwhelmed with personal obligations and responsibilities; they were covering a 100% of the expenses without any outside cooperation or publicity.

  After the closing of their Forum, some of the friends started new sites to keep the flow of information alive. The most prominent was abusostj.org; they have done an excellent job in Spain calling attention to the child abuse and shunning issues on newspapers, Radio and TV. Last month the site administrator announced that he was shutting his doors on February 14, he didn’t gave much of an explanation but it might be a legal issue related to the WT legal department (this is speculation).

  Some of the friends are working and creating new forums but a hot dispute is raging right now, there are some bitter accusations going back and forth. I am enclosing two Spanish sites where more information is available.

  https://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com/2017/01/por-que-cerrar-el-foro-abusos-tj.html

  https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/433-denuncia-a-la-guardia-civil-por-acoso-comit%C3%A9-judicial-cantabria
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  2007 Andrew Young Obama’s candidacy remarks

  by Hecce in

  1. social
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  the associated press published a story about civil rights veteran and atlanta former mayor andrew young going on an atlanta show saying that he thought barack should run for president in 2016, because he is too young to run for president and that he thought, essentially, the clintons were as black as barack.

  here’s what they quoted from the young interview:.

  “i want barack obama to be president,” young said, pausing for effect, “in 2016.”.

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  Hecce

  It seems like a golden opportunity that was wasted.
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  2007 Andrew Young Obama’s candidacy remarks

  by Hecce in

  1. social
  2. current

  the associated press published a story about civil rights veteran and atlanta former mayor andrew young going on an atlanta show saying that he thought barack should run for president in 2016, because he is too young to run for president and that he thought, essentially, the clintons were as black as barack.

  here’s what they quoted from the young interview:.

  “i want barack obama to be president,” young said, pausing for effect, “in 2016.”.

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  Hecce

  Yes Simon, no way to redo the past.