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  Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.

  jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.

  february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.

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  Feb 15 1994 Watchtower]It is precisely because of this close adherence to Bible teachings that the veneration and idolization of human leaders so characteristic of cults today is not to be found among Jehovah’s Witnesses. They reject the concept of a clergy-laity distinction. The Encyclopedia of Religion aptly states about Jehovah’s Witnesses: “A clergy class and distinctive titles are prohibited.”

  From the March 1, 2006 Watchtower magazine on page 5 in the article "Who Are Genuine Christians?" we read:
  
  Jesus expects his followers to remain in his word — that is, to stick to his teachings. Instead, religious teachers claiming to follow Christ have “increasingly adopted Greek concepts,” notes theologian Küng. They have replaced Jesus’ teachings with, among others, ideas like the immortality of the soul, a belief in purgatory, worship of Mary, and a clergy class — ideas borrowed from pagan religions and philosophers. - 1 Corinthians 1:19-21; 3:18-20.[/COLOR]
  
  
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  Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.

  jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.

  february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.

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  Fisherman

  Thanks for the clarification.

  I wonder about this:

  The confidentiality of.JW Elders and Penitents going to them for a spiritual purpose continue to be protected under Federal Law..

  We know that down the line a confession will be shared with others, this reference seems to indicate that in order to keep the privilege they must remain secret.

  3.  California law defines a “ ‘penitential communication’ “ as “a communication made in confidence, in the presence of no third person so far as the penitent is aware, to a member of the clergy who, in the course of the discipline or practice of the clergy member's church, denomination, or organization, is authorized or accustomed to hear those communications and, under the discipline or tenets of his or her church, denomination, or organization, has a duty to keep those communications secret.”  (Evid.Code, § 1032.)
  http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1731903.html
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  Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.

  jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.

  february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.

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  Two cases in California destroyed the so called clergy privilege of the WT, one was the Napa case and the other the Simental case. The rulings were that once that the initial confession is shared with someone else the privilege disappears, very different that the Catholic Church confession. Here is some Silent Lambs information on the Simental case:

  CONVICTED!!!

  Murrieta man convicted of molesting two sisters sentenced today

  The Desert Sun wire services • June 27, 2008

  http://www.mydesert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080627/NEWS08/80627004/1263/update

  A 50-year-old Murrieta man convicted of molesting two young sisters in 2005 and 2006 is scheduled to be sentenced today.

  Gilbert Simental was convicted of lewd behavior with a child under 14
  for molesting two sisters he knew from his Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and
  faces 45 years to life in prison when he is sentenced this morning.
  
  It took less than a day for the eight-woman, seven-man jury to find him
  guilty of three counts of lewd acts upon a child under 14 for molesting a 9- year-old girl in 2005 and her 10-year-old sister in 2006.
  
  The jury also found true an allegation of multiple victims.
  
  While testifying in his own defense, Simental confessed to molesting the younger sister but denied touching her sibling at a July 15, 2006, pool party and sleepover at his home.
  
  Church elders in the Jehovah's Witness congregation that Simental attended testified during the trial that he told them he molested the girls.
  
  The elders had tried to avoid testifying by claiming clerical privilege, but the judge ruled spoke with them in a group setting, not a confessional setting.
  
  The defendant has another case pending stemming from allegations by a third child that he molested her.

  http://www.silentlambs.org/ElderprotectPedophile.htm
  
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  Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.

  jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.

  february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.

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  Mandated Reporting

  Protecting children is the responsibility of us all. Anybody who suspects that a child is being hurt, has the right to report that suspicion.

  Certain professionals, due to their contact or work with children, have special responsibilities. These people are called mandated reporters and are required by law to report suspected child abuse. Mandat­ed reporters are critical in the child abuse prevention effort.

  Mandated reporters include but are not limited to:

  • School employees
  • A person licensed or certified to practice in any health-related field
  • A medical examiner, coroner or funeral director
  • An employee of a healthcare facility or provider who is engaged in the admission, examination, care or treatment of individuals
  • An employee of a child care service, who has direct contact with children in the course of employment
  • A clergyman, priest, rabbi, minister, Christian Science practitioner, religious healer or spiritual leader of any regularly established church or other religious organization
  • An independent contractor
  • An employee of social services agency, who has direct contact with children in the course of employment
  • A peace officer or law enforcement official
  • An employee of a public library who has direct contact with children in the course of employment
  • Mandated reporters are required to report abuse when they have reasonable cause to suspect, on the basis of their medical, professional or other training and experience that a child is being abused or neglect.

  Mandated reporters are not trained child abuse investigators.

  It is critical to child abuse prevention to report suspect abuse and not wait for the child to tell you about the abuse. It is also critical to child abuse investigations that mandated reporters do not conduct interviews to prove abuse is occurring. Suspicion is derived from professionals’ training and experiences.

  To make a report of suspected child sexual abuse, call ChildLine at 1-800-932-0313, or submit a report online via the Child Welfare Portal.

  PCAR has trainers across the Commonwealth in our 50 rape crisis centers that provide in-person training on child abuse recognition and reporting. Our curriculum has been approved by the Department of Human Services in accordance with Act 31 of 2014 and approved by the Pennsylvania Department of Education in accordance with Act 126 of the Pennsylvania Public School Code.

  http://www.pcar.org/laws-policy/mandated-reporting

  http://keepkidssafe.pa.gov/cs/groups/webcontent/documents/document/c_137646.pdf
  
  
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  JW Response to Oroville Dam Issue 180,000+ evacuated.

  by Luther bertrand in

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  188,000 people have been evacuated in nor.

  according the los angeles times the following places are open to evacuee's.

  click here!.

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  Hecce

  Crazyguy
  

  2 years ago

  Last years Typhoon that hit the philipines destroyed three KH's where the members were encouraged to stay after the meeting, Im sure because in their eyes it was gods house. All three halls were detroyed and a storm surge came in and took away half of one congragation killing 25+ members. In all at least 45 JW's were killed because they didnt listen to the local authorities but instead saught refuge in Gods House their Kingdom Hall. They Listened, Obeyed and Got Killed, I mean got blessed..Religion is a snare and a racket and the leaders of this religion should be shot!!!

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/82831/jws-protected-from-tsunami-going-meeting-from-bethel?page=3&size=10
  
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  Democrats, Conspiracy theorists, take a look

  by JeffT in

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  2. current

  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/06/sandy_berger_and_the_clinton_c.htmlsandy berger and the clinton cover-up - why it mattersbyronald a. cass.

  on may 17th, sandy berger, president bill clinton's national security adviser, voluntarily gave up his law license and with it the right to practice law.

  that is a stunning move for an accomplished lawyer, one of the nation's most influential public officials.

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  JeffT

  It was completely ignored at that time.

  Just making a point, things will never change.
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  Democrats, Conspiracy theorists, take a look

  by JeffT in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/06/sandy_berger_and_the_clinton_c.htmlsandy berger and the clinton cover-up - why it mattersbyronald a. cass.

  on may 17th, sandy berger, president bill clinton's national security adviser, voluntarily gave up his law license and with it the right to practice law.

  that is a stunning move for an accomplished lawyer, one of the nation's most influential public officials.

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  Just one comment?
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  440 Bethelites reassigned

  by stillajwexelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although not in print yet - 440 bethelites reassigned, was the figure i heard from the platform as to how many bethelites have been reassigned to the field in one way or another in the usa

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  Every single word was proven truthful.
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  Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.

  jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.

  february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.

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  Hecce

  Attorneys take these cases on a contingency basis, their motivation is mostly monetary. They will settle when they reach a figure that they like and avoid a long court case that is going to be very, very expensive. Remember WT counsel is in house and already paid for.
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  Fidel Castro and the WT

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.

  you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.

  during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.

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  Going back to the Cuban saga, I will re state that a lot of unconventional things happened during that time. Sometimes the most trusted brothers proved to be not that faithful, I will give you an example.

  When there were only 2 DOs serving the whole country, one of them was a brother of humble origins, well liked and very capable; on top of that he was a very handsome man. He got married way up, he was a country boy and got married to a socialite from the capital, real royalty.

  His duties during that time included picking up the remittances and cash from the circuits and congregations in his district. He will take them to the Branch and return with the receipts showing that there were delivered. To the shock of the majority of the brothers it was discovered that he was pocketing some of the money by making false remittances and creating fake receipts upon returning.

  This was a major scandal and he was disfellowshipped, in time he came to USA, asked for reinstatement and was told that prior to that he had to return the money that he stole. I don't know all the details but it seems like he did it because he was eventually reinstated.