Posts by ÁrbolesdeArabia

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comments you will not hear, or just might, 30sec,-- bible reading Luke 18

by prologos in

luke 18:9:-- [jesus] spoke to those who trusted themselfs that they were [right or] rightous and who considered the rest as nothing":, (as other sheep, lower aninmals only).

the context shows why it is so hard to convince a householder in the d2d work [or a dub of tatt] is in the prayer of the pharisee,.

luke 8:11,12 :"---god i thank you that i am not like the rest --[no, i am, you made me' better, the best]-or even as this tax collector.--".

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Good stuff Bobcat and Prologos! Keep up the good Bible Comments and pay no mind to Mp, he is having a bad hair week!

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Quote from this week's WT study

by dissonance_resolved in

"god's servants on earth will not need to defend themselves against aliens from another planet.".

good to know- but strangely no scriptural reference for this gem..

ÁrbolesdeArabia

That's precious! Where does the Tower dig this garbage up?

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Another elder came and told me I'm not an apostate and no-one can judge me.

by Julia Orwell in

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i'll call him bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice.

bear's the coboe, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders.

he 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice i was at home, tending to some animals.

Sweetie, you are no apostate, you are a good person JWN loves very much! I read as much Bible Scholarly work on the word "Apostate", nobody here falls into this catagory, it's the best lie the Tower spreads!

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Defrauding the elderly ,the following story appeared on ex-jw.com

by raymond frantz in

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the following story appeared on ex-jw.com ,before you read it i want to add my own testimony .some years ago there was an announcement at the kingdlom hall to donate money for the construction of a new kingdom hall ,many brothers and sisters donated their life savings and some considerable amounts .ten years later no kingdom hall and the money has long since being transfered to the watchtower's accounts where it earns them a nice interest .amongst these brothers were also elderly ones that could have used this money for their retirement.now the story :".

"i am writing this article to share my personal experiences and to disclose to all current and former jehovah's witnesses that the potential for the watchtower organization to take advantage of their elderly parents clearly exists.

i am specifically referring to the handling of family inheritances, last wills and testaments, estates, family trusts, and the disposition of property and cash assets.. .

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Wasblind" I always heard it's the disfellowshiped kids responsiblity to take over the roles of "care-giver" and "meal provider" while the "good elders and elderettes" are preaching the Watchtower's Mantra from Coffee Shop to Coffee Shop!

We had dealt with devious members of the Tower who knew the "disfellowshiped kids were more emotionally loving and had consciences than active JWs", I swear I heard this told several times my friends!

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Defrauding the elderly ,the following story appeared on ex-jw.com

by raymond frantz in

jw
friends

the following story appeared on ex-jw.com ,before you read it i want to add my own testimony .some years ago there was an announcement at the kingdlom hall to donate money for the construction of a new kingdom hall ,many brothers and sisters donated their life savings and some considerable amounts .ten years later no kingdom hall and the money has long since being transfered to the watchtower's accounts where it earns them a nice interest .amongst these brothers were also elderly ones that could have used this money for their retirement.now the story :".

"i am writing this article to share my personal experiences and to disclose to all current and former jehovah's witnesses that the potential for the watchtower organization to take advantage of their elderly parents clearly exists.

i am specifically referring to the handling of family inheritances, last wills and testaments, estates, family trusts, and the disposition of property and cash assets.. .

ÁrbolesdeArabia

RayFranz, ulitimate repsonsiblity lies with your family who traded off with the Pioneer. JW kids need to learn from your experience, trading physical and emotional responsiblites with a Pioneer or anyone has never been the answer, we had many lazy sons and daughters (Not you, in all seven kingdum halls I served in, we had this problem occur) who gave the JW living with the parents "Carte Blanche! We have had "POA" for seven years now, our parents do not trust their other kids who ripped them off. Where were your brothers and sisters when this guy was systematically screwing you over? Come on now, I think every JW with a ounce of brain power would be connected to their elderly parents Estates, stocks, bonds, real estate ect.. Parents might think your invasive but after discussing the issues and your fears of your parents getting ripped off, many parents are allowing their kids access to their accounts and credit (permission to review, not use!) assets, TRW Reports ect. Where were the kids who let the Pioneer take their job over?

The elders of the Kingdom Hall will try to shake down every single elderly person when a single Pioneer is looking for housing. We had a illegal immigrant with two kids, she was broke with husband and ex-boy friends actively seeking her down. The elders knew about her problems and still they dumped her onto our 88 year old cranky sister's door steeps. The elders who dumped her, each had plenty of "illegal dwelling apartments" they could have rented her or allowed her to live in "rent free". The elderly are being duped by the Elders, they think the Elders really give a dam or care, when the fact is the elders are looking for the easy way to get out of tough problems!

This illegal immigrant sister showed up with two kids and a sad tale of divorce, boyfriends hunting her down and no money. Brother Fred Gufus and Ostrich Bozo Elder wanted the quickest solution to a potential costly problem. They put the crazy illegal immigrant Pioneer in Sister Cranky's house and Sister Cranky had her credit cards and checks stolen. The elders are incompetent when it comes to any situations with finances, social or mental problems and getting their flock gainful employment, it's best to malinger on the public dole and pioneer!

Seriously we need tough love now! It's up to every decent kid to keep the Watchtower's Patented "Parasite Pioneers" from ripping our parents off, I have enough problems with family all the time, they are trying to clean my JW parents out in the name of Watchtower Society's Expansion!

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Watchtower encourages children to shun DF parents.

by Azazel in

hey guys just wondering if anyone can recall a recent watchtower ( maybe a year ago ) that had an article aimed at minor children on dealing with a disfellowshipped parent.

ive had a dive thru jw.org but coudnt find it before i wanted to vomit.

can anyone help recall what issue it was.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Disfellowshiped kids are encouraged to take care of their elderly Witness parents.

JW Childern in good standings, (Pioneers, Elders, Elderettes, C.O., D.O.s ect) are happy when disfellowshiped family are picking up all the slack they are too busy to handle..

One of the biggest hurdles elders in the Jehovah's Witness Theology is trying to explain how the best appearing families in the Organization are the worst to their parents. The religion thrieves off hypocrisy and blind obedience to the Slave, even if this means giving up your humanity. The Organization has rewarded all the faithful Witnesses by turning off their brains even though most suffer severe emotional problems and do not know why. Go Figure!

My older brother "El Ladron (The Thief), stold from my parents,, stold from me and is still a COBE after fifteen years of stealing, my crazy mother-in-law said "I need to wait on Jehovah because he is using my brother, how screwed up is that?"

Ex-motherinlaw found ways to judge others of being weak, while she traveled up and down the coast looking for her 50 year old son, finding him in action with his "Fing-Tents" or Sex pup tents and a married woman he lured away from her family, he promised them a better life but only if she worked while he stayed home drinking, and taking meth.) she made excuses for his alchoholism and caught him screwing married women. She acted like she was the Virgin Mary, that's why she could talk to him after he broke up ten married familes (He loved chasing married women because they don't have STDs. Motherex thought said "my boy is just weak, he needs my love as she condemmed other parents with DF'ed sick kids to Ghenna!) because she was of the annointed. She never thought it was wrong to break all the rules on disfellowshiping for herself, she condemmed others of her own hypocrisy! Love those JW teachers who never once qouted scripture, just watchtowers and books because they did not love their Bible like they loved the magazines!

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Geico and your other insurances will provide you a Umbrella Insurance Policy to cover any litigation from Malicious Prosecution from the web, cost is usually $230 a year for $1,000,000 in coverage. If you have another insurance for your home or agriculture and cars, the cost can drop to $165 a year, that's a cheap lawyer, and they will attempt to respond to your ISPs request to release your name before a lawsuit is started.

Cedars said "People have been sued for less", yes that's true and people have had to pay frivilous legal fees to the defense. Why would he say things like that, Chaserious should comment on that reply. I was in a lawsuit with a technology company because posted financial information and comments made by the CEO in 1998, I won the lawsuit and I was paid damages by the Plaintiff because the judge ruled it was malicious prosecution for expressing Freedom of Speech. I proved everything I wrote about this company, all info were with the SECs forms and conference calls used by the company. The technology company was a boiler-room (They went BK in 1999.) and the ended up paying all my legal cost plus $63,000 in damages, I revealed a huge fact about myself, if someone know how to look up early case studies and the paving of California's Freedom Of Speech and Muzzling, you might know who I am...... ;)

Post by Simon:

"Yes, I sent a PM trying to offer some support and to apologise if it seemed I was being too hard on them. Got some threats in return - not only for the region/country location but also that even though we'd already removed several unconstructive comments / insults directed toward the AAWA he didn't think we'd removed enough of them and was trying to claim that 'people had been sued for less'.

I tried to tell him what I thought he was doing wrong and why I believed it was being mishandled but I don't think advice is anything he wanted to hear, never mind listen to, even if it was given in private.

Oh, and he wanted a public apology from me so here you go Cedars:

I'm sorry ... that you have handled things so badly and continued to poor your own gasoline on the fire you started by acting in an arrogant and dismissive way when concerns where brought to your attention. I'm sorry you exposed other people's identities and seriously affecting people's lives and also tarnished other people reputations who had the misfortune of deciding to embark on this endeavour with you. I'm sorry I feel the need to keep the warning up about AAWA so anyone who googles it can see how you treat people. I'm sorry, in hindsight, that I agreed to let you post your announcement in the first place. I'm sorry I took your side when you whined on and on and on about being attacked and threatened by someone on the site when in hindsight I was fooled and should have deleted you instead."

"Happy?"

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

SORRY TO SEE CEDARS LEAVE, "IT TAKES A LIFE TO BUILD YOUR REPUTATION AND ONLY A SECOND TO DESTROY IT". PROVERB

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

"DELETED POST" BECAUSE CEDARS LEFT THE BUILDING FOR GOOD.

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Cedars, I read your post after commenting on the AAWA debacle (true or false story, how can we prove their real?), you need to take Simon's words to heart, you are speaking with a man who has the experience of running a website with "Millions Of Hits, most of our information we received has been from members like you, and others leaking details of the magazines, elder's letters and other silly stuff. The gist of Simon's message was to raise the level of awareness and bring some possible glitches of your forum. Free consulting information from Simom, that's priceless!

You can't buy information from a web consultant for the price Simon's is giving you, use the setbacks to come back strong and grow from any faults on your members forum. We need more sites and we need to protect our members privacy, that's what Simon is trying to help you grasp. Peace Cedars!

Cedars, Ed Hess of Darden School of Business has a great book to read, please buy the E-Book because he speaks of the issues your new website is going through, he is one of the top business teachers in the USA, if not the World. Please buy this book, you will thank me latter after reading this gem.

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