Posts by ÁrbolesdeArabia

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-25-2012 WT Study (CONGREGATE)

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comments.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

I have hated attending meetings from infancy, why?

1. Assholes stealing whole blocks of seats, leaving "nose bleeding seats for the "elderly Witnesses" until the Org figured the liability of forcing a 90 year old to climb the top of Dodger Stadium or a single-mother with five kids danging from her hip. Kids hated these events the old geezers dragged them to!

2. The wicked heat waves and smog during the Summer Convention, the Sun beating down on us, or the Umbrellas of others blocking our views of the Dramas.

3. Working in Food Concession Stands did not allow us to listen to "life saving talks", were these not really necessary if I spent from 10am to 1:30 PM working with food products for hungry hippos?

4. Families in front of us (I feel sorry for a 1-6 year old) trying to sit still, while listening to some old-hag or curmugeon yell "Sheesh!", "Sheesh you want to live in the Paradise, Jehovah want's you sitting still in the 103 degree heat!

5. "King Pinns From Bethel" had covered areas to sit back, every need was taken care of this Aristocracy, while brothers and sisters bowed before them like Apostles or Jesus Christ himself.

6. Hotels, Hotels and No Hotels. How is it that people were "booked" for hotels next door to the Convention Center before the release date of from the Kingdom Ministry? Cheating? Fraud?

Why is getting a hotel such a nightmare for the average "rank-and-file" JW? Elders peeked into the "Designated Hotel List" and allowed their wives or called them self to get premium lodging. I hated District, Circuit, Special Days!

7. Let the kids have the dam Swimming Pools! Poor little runts, they sat all day in these God-forsaken conditions and this is the only bit of mercy left for these little guys. I hold no envy if they robbed me by stealing the pool! I pitied the children, those kids and toddler's whose poor butts hurt from sitting hours on shitty seats! Adults can handle this shit, kids were not required to attend these meeting according to the Mosaic Law, yet JWs push the imagine that all must attend the Sardine Packed Dramas!

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"PUT FAITH in a VICTORIOUS ORGANIZATION" WT MAR 1 1979"

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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can we discuss the front cover issue of the watchtower march 1 1979 with the above caption?

"in search of christian freedom"has the copy of the magazine on page around 563. brother ray franz continues qouting jeremiah 17:.

copy the cover of wt 1979. .

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Can we discuss the front cover issue of the Watchtower March 1 1979 with the above caption? "In Search Of Christian Freedom"has the copy of the magazine on page around 563. Brother Ray Franz continues qouting Jeremiah 17:

Copy the cover of WT 1979

"Jeremiah 17:5-8, where Jehovah says:Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings, who seeks his strength in flesh, whose heart turns away from [Jehovah]. He is likea barren bush in the desert that enjoys no change of season, butstands in a lava waste, a salt and empty earth. Blessed is the manwho trusts in [Jehovah], whose hope is in [Jehovah]. He is like atree planted beside the waters that stretches out its roots to thestream: it fears not the heat when it comes, its leaves stay green; inthe year of drought it shows no distress, but still bears fruit.12"

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Looking After Widows and Orphans... and Spending One's "Riches"

by AGuest in

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to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

from time to time the issue of how to fulfill the "form of worship that is acceptable to god," mentioned by james in his letter, namely, looking after widows and orphans "in their tribulation"... comes up.

given the issue of tithing, the plethora of institutionalized charity choices, and the existence of ones in need, perhaps in our own households and families... but certainly in our towns, countries... and around the world... how does one fulfill this requirement?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Yeah, I think the Governing Body hates the "Commentary of the Letter Of James" too! Hit's too close to home with their double-talk, and hipocrisy! James cannot be talked away, or watered down and that's why we have never had another updated book!

Ray Franz did a fantastic job on this "shelved" book, one of their books that are not a heaping pile of dung!

Ray Franz and Sam Dunlap went down a "rabbit hole" when working on the "Aid To Bible Understanding" book, the more they worked to match ancient Christianty's qualities, the further they realized the Watchtower's Governing Body were the antithesis of "good Christianity"

Ty cofty! Peace with you Sister Shelby!

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Why does my mom shun my Son?

by trujw in

i have never understood one thing about jws.

ok i am not a witness but what has my son done?

he is an innocent child.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

BOTR: What his their goal?

You are preaching to the choir. The lack of love among the Witnesses was what moved my gut to reject them before I had any knowledge of doctrines. School had love. The library school had love. When I visited classmates' homes, love was present. I never felt it at the KH. Only a bunch of rigid rules that caused me much harm. Children have a right to be love unconditionally, not converted. Sadly, it may be the best of a bad situation now."

"Every house divided cannot stand" What is their goal by turning Witness families against families?

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Jehovah's Witnesses dismayed by new magazine format from Watchtower Society.

by Balaamsass in

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wow.

i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.

i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

I actually heard old JWs saying they like the new format of the Watch-tract and "Awake" tracts. I asked about the claim of the Watchtower repeatedly asking for money other than their classic "Fall Donation Arragement Magazine" we are all use to. Northern California is not buzzing with complaining JWs, I doubt anyone wanted to read more tracts.

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Looking After Widows and Orphans... and Spending One's "Riches"

by AGuest in

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to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

from time to time the issue of how to fulfill the "form of worship that is acceptable to god," mentioned by james in his letter, namely, looking after widows and orphans "in their tribulation"... comes up.

given the issue of tithing, the plethora of institutionalized charity choices, and the existence of ones in need, perhaps in our own households and families... but certainly in our towns, countries... and around the world... how does one fulfill this requirement?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

@longhairedgirl: why do JWs avoid the dirty work of Christianity and prefer the easy "meeting attendance, field service almost everyone including those with presummed authority " elders and elder-wives enjoy their group following and glory from men?

I've read the Roman Pagans were confounded by the love early Christians displayed to"non-Christian widows and orphans, and elderly cast-aways of the Roman World", something followers of the Watchtower Society would find repulsive!

Dear Aguest: You address issues that every Christian must learn to research, when our Master ask's the reason why "we behaved the way we did?", it's won't be enough to say "I was tricked!" or "The Governing Body told me widows and orphans only applied to former "company men and women"". The book of James is not a easy read, it hurts those Christians who think being a Christian means "attending meetings and placing literature", James preached a message of love backed by Christian efforts!"

St. Peter's message said our Christian conduct was key to winning the opposition over, not driving them away with a pious or self-righteous manner cults use today.

Aguest, how often did you witness Circuit Overseers or Traveling Overseers checking up on widows and orphans, going to resthomes looking up old lost loyal JWs? Peace be with you brother!

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Blood Transfusions - Truly a "Sin"?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

you may have seen where i shared this before but my understanding is that it needs to be shared again... because there are those who will benefit.

i won't go into my usual tome... but only state: .

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Peace be with you "Aguest", a very exciting thread you posted, I find the double standards of Witnesses under the control of the "Men of Lawlessness" scary, and hope they don't pay the ultimate price before Lord Jesus Returns!

Your Fellow Slave AA

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Why does my mom shun my Son?

by trujw in

i have never understood one thing about jws.

ok i am not a witness but what has my son done?

he is an innocent child.

ÁrbolesdeArabia

truJw, I know I can't drink because my mind will start to go into overdrive and think of how stupid I was all these years!

I don't know why your Mother won't see her grandchild, it's so common for JWs to put their neighbors they don't know, ahead of their own grandkids!

This goes the other way too, we have kids and grandkids who lived with Grandma and Grandpa while their parents were off doing nothing. Grandpa and Grandma paid the rent, paid for food, watched the children and grandkids only to have the new JW kids too busy to repay all the good their parents did for them.

I can't put my finger on this problem, it's almost like a Worldy Person in JW Theology is worth 3x more than taking care of their own family and kids. This is the opposite of what Jesus Christ explained his Father wanted us to do!

Start with Romans to Jude, and tell me if these Books resemble anything Jehovah's Witnesses practice.

You are aware that Nancy Yuen allowed herself to be thrown into prison, she abandoned her kids for no good reason in China. The Watchtower Missionaries stopped preaching when the Chinese Government told them to "Stop"!

The Watchtower Missionary Head in China was a fiend, he enjoyed seeing the sisters get thrown in jail and did not attempt to reason with them! Watchtower cowardly missionaries had no problem allowing these women to head to jail, as they sat back in their ass, doing nothing!

Nancy Yuen and other sisters in China had no love for their children, how can you abandon your kids for twenty years for no good reason?! You do not put yourself in danger, China was not Nazi Germany, the Chinese in Nancy Yuens time gave her plenty of chances to "stop disturbing the peace" "practice your own religion in your home!" "Stick with private homes", "just don't march down the disobeying us!" St. Paul did not go into the "District of Asia", Jesus Christ sent him to a more hospital location to preach. The Apostles were not "suicide preacers!"

Nancy Yuen refused to obey these reasonable request and threw her motherhood away! Where does the Bible say this is what Jesus Christ wanted?

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Blood Transfusions - Truly a "Sin"?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

you may have seen where i shared this before but my understanding is that it needs to be shared again... because there are those who will benefit.

i won't go into my usual tome... but only state: .

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Where do JWs get the blood products they are willing to accept into their body?

2. Do JWs give blood products they are willing to accept to blood banks to replenish the inventory?

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How Would "Who Is Candace Conti" Bumper-stickers go over?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

you think if i had a few hundred made up and passed them out, would we throw some attention in the "court of public opinion" on this topic?.

i am confounded how many jws don't know anything about the pedophile issues plaguing the watchtower society!

is this a stupid idea or waste of money?

ÁrbolesdeArabia

Hi mauiboy,

The Congregation I stopped attending had a protector of pedophiles, anyone mentioning their sins was threatened with "Gossiping and Disfellowshiping" if caught talking about pedophiles who confessed of molesting a four year old girl and some little boys, big bad COBE promised "hell to pay!"

I thought of a BillBoard but we need a Website that brings to light what the JW Elders did to Candace Conti.