i was just reading another thread about elderly dubs looking back on their wasted lives--and the thought occurred--.
they had a choice!.
so--for any active jw's reading this----perhaps having the odd doubt or two:-.
Exactly what Phizzy said.
Unless they actually prove to themselves that the religon is wrong, they will not be able to relax one bit during their vacation. They will be consumed in guilt and fear that the WT god will destroy them along with 99.9% of wicked mankind.
i`m just speaking from my own experience here ,and it has occured to me that over the 33 years i was a witness and in the six congrgations i was a part of , except for a few exceptions, the majority of sisters in the congregations did not have a grasp of the so called deeper things of god,according to wt theology, sure they could run off " bible topics for discussion" sermons but very few could take a discussion any further than that.whereas i was aware that males seemed more likely to delve deeper into, not only the scriptures,but also the wt interpretations as a whole.
don`t get me wrong a few women left me for dead in their comprehension of topics ,but i`m just saying overall i found this to be the case ... my experience... smiddy.
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Not meaning to sound sexist but I think my wife might find reading this thread interesting. . . . . after she's finished cooking and cleaning and paying the marital due.
so i have been a lurker on this forum since its inception.
i registered over a year ago.
i jumped in several months back with a highly controversial subject of my daughter being sexually abused by an elder and the efforts we were taking to bring him to justice.
Welcome. Thanks for sharing your story.
i`m just speaking from my own experience here ,and it has occured to me that over the 33 years i was a witness and in the six congrgations i was a part of , except for a few exceptions, the majority of sisters in the congregations did not have a grasp of the so called deeper things of god,according to wt theology, sure they could run off " bible topics for discussion" sermons but very few could take a discussion any further than that.whereas i was aware that males seemed more likely to delve deeper into, not only the scriptures,but also the wt interpretations as a whole.
don`t get me wrong a few women left me for dead in their comprehension of topics ,but i`m just saying overall i found this to be the case ... my experience... smiddy.
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Did you take offense to something villagegirl?
we had an old time jw pass away recently he lived his entire life lie the new system was going to be here tomorrow.. he was a gillard grad and went on to be missionry in west africa.. came back home when wife got pregent(they eventuly had 3 children) ,sold everything pre 75 to see the system out and pioneer then had to work his butt off to rebuild his finances and put a roof over his familys head.. he retired and became a co till his wifes health could no longer alow it.. he got a treminal illness and i wonder in his quiter moments did he think ....".ive lived my entire life for a dream that never came true".
he's only one of many i see,their lives comming to an end and the new system is no closer than it was when they started.. .
karter..
Its both disturbing and a bit shocking to see people not realize the inherent corruption of the Watchtower Publishing House,
in all its mis informative ignorance, exploitation and indulgent manipulation imposed onto people.
Well said I couldn't agree more
we had an old time jw pass away recently he lived his entire life lie the new system was going to be here tomorrow.. he was a gillard grad and went on to be missionry in west africa.. came back home when wife got pregent(they eventuly had 3 children) ,sold everything pre 75 to see the system out and pioneer then had to work his butt off to rebuild his finances and put a roof over his familys head.. he retired and became a co till his wifes health could no longer alow it.. he got a treminal illness and i wonder in his quiter moments did he think ....".ive lived my entire life for a dream that never came true".
he's only one of many i see,their lives comming to an end and the new system is no closer than it was when they started.. .
karter..
A few were talking at a witnessing group a while back about world conditions, the system, how close Armageddon is and so on. A very elderly sister who is extremely spiritual/loyal to the org, said that Jehovah's people have been preaching for so long that he has to end it soon, just for his own reputations sake. I though that was fascinating but also a bit sad.
I think many elderly would not have contemplated death, expecting amargeddon first. My grandmother in her late sixties is in this category for sure.
I do think that this old generation is the last that will put up with it for this long. When the current 30 -45 year olds are 65+, I think the sense of urgency drum will have been beaten to death. Hopefully it will be even sooner.
so, i finally decided to become a member and make my first post .
a bit about me:.
i've been lurking around the forum for quite some time (about 6 months i think).
Welcome Wizard. Awesome to have another currently serving MS join the ranks of the 'mentally diseased'. I am in fade mode also, my parents and other family are in but I am lucky to have awakened my wife with me. What general part of the world are you from?
Play it slow with your family, you might be able to make some progress with them if you do it right. I know how hard it is, you have to hold your tongue constantly when they get into the WT speak mode. I am interested to known how you still manage to do witnessing, do you think you will be able to stay an MS much longer? Do you give public talks?
'Your Fine Conduct Shines Like A Beacon In A World Where No One But Jehovah's People Are Any Good'
I like this one, it could easily be a legit talk title at a DC.
Imagine printing a heap of these and getting a bunch of men in suits handing them out before a convention. That would ease the pain of an otherwise hellish weekend.
what the watchtower society has is focus.
what ex-jw's lack is that very thing...in spades.. .
divide and conquer, eh?
Come on then Lord Lars, slay this WT beast.
i`m just speaking from my own experience here ,and it has occured to me that over the 33 years i was a witness and in the six congrgations i was a part of , except for a few exceptions, the majority of sisters in the congregations did not have a grasp of the so called deeper things of god,according to wt theology, sure they could run off " bible topics for discussion" sermons but very few could take a discussion any further than that.whereas i was aware that males seemed more likely to delve deeper into, not only the scriptures,but also the wt interpretations as a whole.
don`t get me wrong a few women left me for dead in their comprehension of topics ,but i`m just saying overall i found this to be the case ... my experience... smiddy.
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I would agree. It is a generalization, but it rings true to me. My wife, mother, grandmother and most of my elder and ms friends wives are not into learning the scriptural reasoning behind the WT theology as much as the bro's. Not always the case but I know what your saying.
Rainy day in sunny SE QLD today hey smiddy? I use to love rainy Saturday's, gave me a legitimate excuse to miss field circus.
