@the girl next door,
We are debating the same person, vienne wants specific quotes, she just need talk to some JWs.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
@the girl next door,
We are debating the same person, vienne wants specific quotes, she just need talk to some JWs.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
You could maybe write WT articles? I don’t give a shit.
Does the great crowds salvation depend on their close association with the anointed?
JWs themselves believe in the organisation holds salvation concept.
I just think your wrong on this despite how awesome you are otherwise.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
The organisation is essential to salvation, as is a JWs individual obedience to the slave, participation in the slave dictated activities is essential, as is also Jesus sacrifice.
I don’t feel the need to provide quotes, this is the religion.
Have ever been a witness? You would be disfellowshiped for apostasy with your attitude.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
But they still attribute salvation to Christ. The issue here isn't their view of themselves as the one true religion, but it is to whom do they attribute salvation. In their theology that's Jesus, and only Jesus. The two issues are not the same
I still think you’re missing the mark slightly. Salvation according to the WT actually depends on works. Which means....
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
There is no truth besides what the Governing body teaches. Salvation depends on being obedient to the FDS. The organisation is like the ark, required for our salvation.
It’s almost as if you haven’t been to KH and sat through a WT study, week in, week out for decades. This is the rhetoric.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
Salvation depends on obedience to the governing body. They sing songs about it.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
How about the baptism question? Should we dismiss that entirely?
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
Sorry, no quotes... got nothing but 30 years of JW indoctrination.
You don’t believe they have said it’s vital to maintain in the borg?
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
How about... they have said numerous times that the Organisation and the Governing body are essential for a JWs salvation.
Your turn.
lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..
They do NOT teach that salvation comes through the governing body
I think a solid case could be made otherwise.