Posts by 2+2=5

"true story" the circuit overseer came to our kingdom hall and read us the riot act (local needs style) "magazines of this quality are not free, they cost money and we are not generating enough donations to defray the cost of the magazines(or running the top of the line printing presses) i get my ass out of bed to place literature in the laundray cleaning, coin opperated shops and some asshole puts his apostate stickers on our magazines.

do you know how hard it is to get up at 6:00 am and how expensive those magazines are costing the organization to print?

please stop defiling our literature, i dont post hateful stickers on your website so please leave my magazines alone.

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AuntConnie is either bat-shit crazy or she is taking the piss. Whatever the case this thread has made me laugh.

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How Much Did You Actually Study the Bible as a JW?

by Ding in

the wts says that people should read the bible daily, but did you really do that as a jw?.

or were you kept so busy reading wt literature, attending meetings, and going door to door, that you basically had little time for the bible itself?.

also, doesn't the wts teach that no one can understand the bible without "the slave" to teach its true meaning?.

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As a witness your personal study program is arranged. Prepare for meetings, underline your WT. The bible is used to support what the WT says, there is a verse in the bible you could cherry pick to support just about anything.

Even with the weekly bible reading, you only read a few chapters before returning to the meeting to make sure everyone understands it the same way. The oral review is a chance to put unique WT doctrine spin on any controversial verses.

I Don't even need to mention the Examining the Scriptures Daily.

I read the bible at every meeting I attend now. Find it hard to stomach most of the stuff from the platform.

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Some advice please?

by Wonka in

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a friend of mine i'm in lust with, has been trying to convert / recruit me.

she's been very pleasant with me and very patient with me.

she hasn't been very pushy which i appreciate.. she's even said that if at anytime i'm getting smothered or feel this religion isn't my thing, to say so and she will stop asking about it.

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There is a member here BibleTeach. He has YouTube account under the same name. Watch his review of the Faith in Action DVD, its a gem. Every JW who is aware of what they use to believe, compared to what they now say they believed, has to reconcile with the fact that they are following liars.

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How many decades/centuries before 1914 becomes irrelevant?

by jwfacts in

how long do you think the watchtower can speak about 1914 and have followers think it relevant?

i think for people born in the 1900's, it feels like an acceptable year.

but what about those born since 2000, will 1914 seem like a year of relevance?

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I think 1914 is at the end of its tether now. When you put 1914 in the WT library cd search you can see the occurences drop off in the last 10-20 years. The 1914 doctrine use to get a good run in the publications, now in the Bible Teach book it is left to the appendix in the back pages.

I think they would like to ditch it but it is to messy. They have been proclaiming 'Look! Here is the Christ!' for a hundred years. I think they are trying reduce its significance by not harping on about it but it really is the foundation of the whole movement. They will have to stick with the date I believe.

That date already has no feel for younger ones. It's relevance is limited to WWI, Jesus becomes King, and something they read in the bible teach book. It does not inspire any urgency or have any faith strengthening value.

I might be thinking wishfully, but I reckon the WTS is on a slippery slope.

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New video: Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower's secret child abuse letter

by cedars in

we have decided to let the world know what happened when our websites were shut down earlier this month by means of this new video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_9efi84qnc.

huge thanks to nugget for lending us her gorgeous voice, and also to cantleave for his cameo role as the voice of the big bad watchtower!

cedars.

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Nice work.

I really liked the cameo from the 'shoe maker' at the beginning. Let him have his say, and then prove him a double speaking snake after revealing the contents of the BOE letter that he would be fully aware of.

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When do you think there will be a revised "Reasoning Book"

by Amelia Ashton in

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because i was abroad we had to use the original revelation book and only the reader had the new improved version so i don't know if this was the same else where but following along using the old version made the adjustments seem even more ludicrous.. why didn't they ensure everyone had the new version before studying it rather than highlight all the "adjustments" that had to be made in a km and therefore making them more obvious?.

do you think there could be a list of amendments to be inserted into the reasoning book in the same way?.

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With the constant flashes of new light they could just ditch the reasoning book and have a SMS system where the brothers could get text messages with the latest understanding.

The generation that saw 1914 is well dead.

Obviously it means an infinite amount of overlapping generations.

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New Jehovah

by LostGeneration in

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Lol data-dog. Mark is at the kiddie table very good I like that.

I can just imagine egotistical ambitious ministerial servants trying to 'reach out' so they get there elder appointment and climb the list from lowly publisher to the big number 4. Just a few ranks from Jehovah!

Where does this list leave inactive publishers? Oh no! I need to get back on the list before the big A!

On second thoughts Jesus isn't even on that list so I should be fine.