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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

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  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Designs....***So where is God not. To a Christian God must be and can only be omnipresent.***

  Designs, let me ask you in a question, do you believe that there is a personal creator ?

  And what religion or spiritual bent do you prescribe to, if any ?
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  229

  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  UnStop ***a designer behind designs- like it ! ***

  Psalm 139:14

  14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
  your works are wonderful,
  I know that full well.

  Shalom friend
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  229

  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Designs *** PT- In christian theology God is claimed to be omnipresent so how can you differentiate personal and impersonal*****

  I see the "Personal" Holy Spirit as the power of God that CAN have both "Father and Son" embedded as Jeses words at John 17:25-26...15::26, 17:21...

  WhereAs gravity, one of the four ? basic forses in the universe, that may have started "TIME" as we know it, is a power without the "presence" of the Father or the Son . Gravity is impersonal.

  God is omnipresent in Holy Spirit...where ever he wishes to reveal himself.....no ?

  Shalom. Friend.
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Xchange *** Then you don't understand the science (methodology, research parameters etc.) behind all of those exciting discoveries and to use science to bolster your view of some supreme being is quite beguiling.***

  You are correct, I don't know much about science. However, I see a designer behind designs.
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  *** Pterist- How do you know that the Holy Spirit is not the 'fundamental forces of nature' how do you arrive at that conclusion. ***

  The forces in nature fointment point of view, (limited as that they maybe :) ) are from God's power. I make the distinction only because in the worship of deities from early times, people looked to these forces in nature as gods. So, I'm contrasting the Personal Holy Spirit and his WORK as Gods power in nature which is impersonal ! If this makes since.

  FYI, I don't claim to have all the answers, I'm a WORK in progress.

  Shalom
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Cofty **** Ptersit - you were being silly with your snide "don't be angry at god" remark. We have no need of fanciful notions about spirit to explain the fundamental forces of nature.*****

  The Holy Spirit is NOT the fundamental forces of nature, those forces can demonstrates what God's personal Holy Spirit can DO, so in my belief system resurrection of a bloodless human body would be easily achievable by the Creator and lawfully carried out to counter the WTS theology on ransom, The life was in the shed BLOOD.

  That is my belief, I am open to correction based on scripture and not from someone who no longer accepts that reference point. The topic of discussion here is "Should we worship Christ" you Snide remarks of Jesus's bodily functions is disrespectful at best and down right bath room talk of little boys at worse and does not contribute any relevance or further insight on the topic.

  Enjoy your choices.

  Shalom
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Pterist

  Cofty ****When asked how cells could exist without respiration you rambled something vague about quantum theory. This is making stuff up. If its not then please explain it succinctly in your own words*****

  Science is not my subject, however, when one reads the exciting discoveries in science, it all seems to go back to that the GLUE of the universe is Gods eternal Spirit....My reference to Christ bloodless body being resurrected in Gods Power to fulfill scripture and our only hope to escape our mortality and death, is that Power.

  Example .....not made up....by someone else on cell activity.

  One of the key words in the Colossians passage above ("...and in Christ all things hold together") is the Greek word sunistemiwhich means "to stand-together," "to be compacted together," "to cohere," "to be constituted with." This passage can be applied to the structure of the atom, for example. The nucleus of every atom is held together by what physicists call "weak" and "strong" forces. (Physicists today are familiar with four basic forces in the natural world: gravity, electrical forces, a "strong," and a "weak" nuclear force which act at very short ranges. The first two forces decrease in strength inversely with the square of the distance between two objects. Recently two additional close-range, weak gravitational forces have been suggested. These are thought to be quantum mechanical corrections to Newton's Law of Gravitation.)

  You are being silly. .. was a dispassionate and accurate statement not a personal attack.....OK , turn the other cheek, no biggy !

  Shalom
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Pterist

  Personal put downs:

  Just admit you are making stuff up

  You only make yourself look silly

  The You makes it personal .. Shalom
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  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Pterist

  Thanks again Perry, let's hope some JWs can come into a closer relationship with Jehovah as they see Christ's rightful position as the only revealer of the Father, without him as mediator, Jehovah would not be Father, just a distant deity.

  Shalom
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  229

  Should We Worship Jesus?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.

  this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.

  this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.

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  Pterist

  Cofty **** You only make yourself look silly****

  Do you think by putting down people makes you more credible and superior, or does it make you feel better about yourself. Usually personal attacks occur when insecurity is revealed.

  Shalom