cedar mentioned this on another thread talking about 2014 and the wt.
ray also mentioned how easily it would be for the wt to apply the 1 day for a year rule and make 2034 a special year.. .
they already have a contingency plan enshrined in their literature that will see them through to 2034.. http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/2034.html.
As long as JWs continue to believe that being AWAKE is about dates and chronology, they are ASLEEP to its spiritual intended meaning.
A man is on his way home from work or a journey, if his wife is constantly looking out the window for his arrival, nothing is done. If however, she is busy in her home, she will be ready, regardless of what time her husband returns.
Shalom
for me, i'm awaiting for october 2014.. and i'm interested to see how the brothers will react; both in print and in the kingdom hall.. have others thought that it's a bit odd that the eartly christian era was only 74 years in length ( from the baptizm of jesus in 26 ce to the death of the last of the apostals in 100 ad); but the last days are 100 years long?.
*** I remember in 1979 they made a big deal about 100 years of the watchtower magazine ("Don't miss the next 100 years" ).***
Yes, I remember that, and saying to myself, "what's the difference between this and a birthday, worship God and not the creation" ?
Yes, they will want to separate themselves to any reference to 100 years anniversary of Christs return, as Ray Franz says in his book, "For the bed is too short to stretch out on, and the covering so narrow that one cannot wrap himself in it" (Isaiah 28:20).
i am pleased to announce that candace conti, and her key lawyers rick simons and kelly kraetsch are planning a youtube video to answer any questions that people in our community may have regarding the recent conti v watchtower lawsuit.
i have offered to coordinate the gathering of these questions, and i thought it might be fun to do it in a "competition" style jwn thread, with the best answers being chosen by kelly, rick and candace to be addressed in the video.. as you can imagine, there are some provisos to this.... this is an active lawsuit, so for obvious legal reasons kelly, rick and candace will have the absolute and final decision as to which questions are answered and how much information is divulged when they are answered.we need the answers in the next 7 days, so the "cut off" for this competition is exactly 7 days from the time this thread goes live on jwn.we kindly request that all questions are asked in a respectful manner without any malicious or offensive intent.
any inappropriate questions will obviously be discarded and ignored.
Question ?.......Jesus gave advise on legal issues Matthew 5:25-26. Candance, since money was not your motivation, since all you asked for was 144K and one cent, was your motivation to change the WTS policies on how they handled pedophiles cases ?
just curious..
**** Is this a new theory in Christendom, I never heard we are "imperfect in our fleshly state while being "perfected in our fleshly state"", I don't understand his logic, anyone? ****
Just sounds like a typical premillennialism eschatology. As you are probably aware there are basically 3 different end time eschatologies with modifications.
Post, Pre, and amillennialism. Since the word millenium only appears once in the Bible, Revelation 20, a highly symbolic genre, I doubt very much it is literal. The Bible is intended to be read Literarily NOT Literally.
Shalom
are you the same poster/person now?
i have seen many posters mature here.
some still act like jws but others have shown recovery and progress from the witness mentality..
This site is a support group for me where I can see I am not alone in the questions I had as a JW. It is also a great source of information of what is currently going on in the org.
As the Father leads us in Christ in our development, it is hoped that this reciprocal approach of input can be mutually edifying, where God can use ANYONE he wishes, but I hope it's not a talking donkey LOL numbers 22:30
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Welcome newday22 :)
the other day i found a red plastic bag hanging on the knob of our exterior door.
it contained a calendar with beautiful landscape scenes and scriptures for every month of the year.
i'm not a bible believer, but i hung up the calendar because of the pretty pictures.
***JWs have calendars.****
Yes, but it's hard to follow....
BCE = before common era ...BC = before Christ
CE = common era.............AD = after the year of our Lord
ACIR = after Christ's invisible return..........current date 99
just curious..
DOC *** There is the resurrection of the righteous & unrighteous. Either way, you get to come back in the Paradise and be judged for what you do there. Makes sense, right?***
Not too sure about that based on Hebrews 9:28...
New International Version (NIV)
27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
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just curious..
It seems according to Revelation 20, that those part of "first resurrection" pass from death to life in this life. They face a judgement in this life course on their co-operation in the divine life workng within.....I believe this has been happening since Penticost to present. On maturity in Chris whether 50 60 100% they avoid judgement of the second death.....
At the end of this age those not in Christ, ie first resurrection, come under judgement, and are judged "worthy of Life " or not by the one who can read hearts. People like Hitler etc would seem fit for the second death.
just curious..
**** - how come I am no more and no less virtuous than you?*******
You may be more virtuous than me, however, thats not what I'm relying on with my relationship with God. Christ's virtuous relationship with his Father is what I'm relying on and the benefits of that work in me. I'm so happy that their is at lease one non dysfunctional family In the universe, that adopts us into that Spirit and union, it works wonders !?
