Posts by crazy_flickering

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How far will they go?

by careful in

i've been drawing back lately and looking at the big picture going on in the org, somewhat like slimboyfat has also been doing, but i am wondering about different possibilities.

so the current gb has modernized recently in various ways.

they have done a strong and sudden about-face regarding the electronic world, from viewing the whole thing suspiciously and condemning bros. use tablets from the platform to suddenly embracing them and causing the r&f to do so to such a degree that old ones are spending hundreds of dollars to buy devices that they have no clue how to use; they have heavily embraced this media for their message, very much like the churches have been doing for years, especially with their jw broadcasting and their caleb and sophia animations.

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Allowing facial hair, absolutly. Their some reasons: they get rid of wrong teaching, but this is not the main reason. What do a guy, awake, full in, MS and active to step down without giving a reason and don't get in trouble? Grow beard. What do a guy who like to show that he like to make trouble? Grow beard. What do a guy, who like to show how he thinks about all the stuff without telling to much? Grow beard. Sounds funny, but beard means mainly, you can think on your own and won't be afraid, even if they preassure you, to shave. You rebellious. So, if they say: "Brother's, you can grow beards, if it looks serious. Sisters, sorry, you not :)" they maybe start a hype. Something they don't like, but they make a point against the "revolution" from inside. There also some "bearded congs", like my cong. It's interesting to see: if one from the higher once stands up (MS) and grew a beard and nothing happens, there's a hype. The young guys starts also to try to get bearded, after a half year, they can't turn back, or they have no MS and so any more, if all bearded guys have to shave or step down. And I know the MS very well, nobody make stress about it. But he was waiting for it, he was very sad about it ;).A lot of people from the cong tells him, that he look much better.

So, grew a beard if you in - we will be part of the "little flock". When it's allowed, you could only be part of the "big flock". :)

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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Hi pile2222,

there a lot good books outside, but english is not my native tongue (- so sorry, sometimes my writing sounds a little bit wrong). If you wan't some input to think about structures: Orwells 1984, I love the book. For understanding how evil they lie to you: Johnssons book about the gentile times. And CoC.

Which bible is hard to say, mainly it depends on what you like and where you live (language, translation). Main options: take an older translation if you like hard to read but very accurat text. If you like a happy and easy to read option, take a newer and free translation. Or buy some cheap used - and look which you like. There also a lot of apps out there, some with a lot of translation also some interlinear bibles for free. Maybe it helps, to start with the new testament. And yes, I think the NWT is poison. A bad and biased translation.

If you like to start your day with novels, do it. Take happy once ;)

There also some websites in different language, for believers they be or been JW and like to follow him without preassure.

What means hard to you? Maybe you read the words with a JW-point-of-view. Follow Christ under attacks from JW? Live undercover?...? Rise a child as christ and not as a JW? This all is hard, but not in the way you learn it as JW. There'll no scoring, you not get judget by your preaching time or something like this.

I often try to leave this point of view beyond me, it don't work always. Im a born-in, baptised at 14 more then 15 years ago, also have to be active, so it's not easy for CFL all the day. Hope to fade some day. But one think, maybe helps you. Do your research step by step. If you a beliver, don't look at everything at the first time, e. g. what the GB does, first check, if the appointed to make decissions.

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Canadian Branch Office directed a congregation to lock the door during the meetings

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137091096103/canadian-branch-office-directed-a-congregation-i.

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The door is locked, yes. So people can't come in. But, even if it's locked, nearly every door got a panic-handle. So, if there's trouble, you come out of the hall with no delay. Also, I think it sound strange, but no big deal in reality and I'm fine with it.

Also the mainentrance to the hall and parkinglots locked, also for safetyreasons. It's easier, to sit in the cong an to know: your car is safe, you can be sure to leave as fast as you can. :D

And anybody knows the moment, you too late and have to ring the doorbell at the cong? When you step inside, all eyes looking at you. I loved it.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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Hi pile2222,

I'm new here also. I see this: you write that you don't do anything for getting to the new world. I don't wan't say, belive in god or not. But your thought based on JW-teaching, guilt, fear, death for all non-JW. Counting time, give money, hate everything outside is a pure JW-thing. Live a good life, care for others, take care for your daughter, love her. That what you read in the bible, in other books and what normal people do. If there a god - a decision you have to make on your own, for your own - then he's not like the CO, looking thrue papers and read about your hours, magazines and so on.

And if you read the bible, don't take the new world translation. If you read something from the Org: stop reading all the guilt-trip-magazines, the daily text and so on. If you like to read some religios stuff in the morning or so, take other stuff or read direct from the bible. Worked for me very well.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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If you think, they only doubt about elders and not the other stuff, talk with somebody about broadcast. Start with a new one (don't look it, read about ;)). Then go on to the new explanation of the generation. Most of the people you talk to, say, they don't belive, it's BS or there will be soon new light. You don't have to show that you think it's wrong. Only mention new light, hard to understand...

To talk about something like the generation that not pass, and that it's unlogical what they told - I can't imagine to talk in this way 10years before.

Hope to wake up a friend very soon. Or maybe I'm caught after it.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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I talked sometimes before with an other MS about CoC - he read it on his tablet and I tell him I like this book, we make jokes about 607, he always make a comment, that he's shure, that I "liked" the cong when they try to grap money. So we talk very easy about a lot of things.

Even when I talk -even with elders- about australia and other stuff, until now, nothing happens.

The young MS's in my cong bearded. 3-day-beard and one fullbearded. The last one, serve as MS, pray also on sunday. He make the other young guys grow a beard. So yes, underground movement is growing, but a way to connect is missing.

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To all JDub lurkers: How can you continue to preach knowing that you are telling lies?

by macys in

this is a damn serious question.

you must know by now that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce and that 607 was initially picked by ct russell by using his "pyramid scheme" measurements.

there is no hiding these facts yet you continue to preach this nonsense.

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It's not easy. I'm full in physically. Wait for a special reasons that I'm kicked as MS. Until this, I can't start my fade.

So d2d: most ours faked, only go for protection. Mostly with uber-dubs. I have a standard-introduction, most people say no. Talk a lot about TTATT-in the light way. The uber-dubs say, I'm strong in my faith. In the cong I give only answers without a wrong point, read out of the bible, mostly I'm only sleep with open eyes like a rabbit.

On the other hand, I make a lot of trouble with the elders, the CO lost in front of the elders a discussion with me - makes him look like a stupid loser, so they hesitate mostly to make trouble.

As long, as I can stay under the radar, I build up live2.0, spread TTATT, work for people who help escape from cults - exspecially JW, helped some people to get out without any contact to the elders and some more. So it's easy to sit there and to know, they lost there grip.

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I almost died laughing at the meeting last night. OMG WTF is going on? Have I been away this long?

by macys in

ok so most of you guys know already that i am going through the reinstatement process for my parents but i do have a partially sinister plan which i will not mention here since someone told me that there are b-lites that read boards like this.

last night and it was the funniest experience i have ever seen.

besides that the brother doing the sound and video screwed up the whole thing when showing the videos and it took 3 brothers to fix it after 10 minutes, the whole thing was a joke.

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I have to read the trash at the bookstudy, nobody give an answer. So boring and senseless. Count every minute, hear the end is near (of the cong, don't hope to muchn;)). And then, the song. The most people under 30 with a little brain, fight against to laugh out loud. I was also reminded to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCjQbKowUo

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Do JW's still go door-to-door?

by Dark Knight in

with the rise of the new literature cart method of preaching, i'm curious as to how the traditional jw preaching work is organized.

the other reason i ask this is that i hardly see jw's door-knocking anymore.are they still going door-to-door and tracking how regularly their territory is covered?

are they still using territory maps and keeping track of do-not-calls, ethnic/deaf houses etc?i'm also curious as to how the literature cart ministry is organized.

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Door2door don't stop, you have to report when you finished preachIng in all your territory. Normally you should finish it twice a year. With the flyerstuff and invitations it's easy. Even easier you say that you finished and don't disturb the people in your territory. ;)

You have to order the carts by the bOrg, they send it with the literature. There plans, when and where. Mostly at the carts only uber-dubs and younger once allowed.

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How this Jehovah’s Witness feels about the Australian Royal Commission

by Simple Minds in

i know the arc is old news i know i am preaching to the converted but i had to express how i feel because most of my jw friends and family dont want to hear .

so this is how i feel.

i have faithfully served as a jehovahs witness for over 25 years..

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One thing, I wonder about: if there a 2nd witness, wouldn't it mean, that's an abuser also?

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