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Commercial activism.

by Ben131895 in

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in his last couple of vlogs, john cedars is wearing a t-shirt saying shunned.

some people liked it and asked him if they could purchase one.. in his last vlog (#111) he is advertising it and mentioned the link www.apostee.com, based in the us.

comments attached to vlog # 110 mentioned the fact that this company will close in april and that the business will be continued by cedars itself, who has also a stock of anti-witness items.. besides that, he was not the owner of jwsurvey.org, but since january 16, 2016 he is.. it looks (as mentioned before by simon in an earlier thread), this guy is making a living from his activism, a paid career.. one should seriously question his true motives, demonstrated in his activism.

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Activism cost time, money and energy. If somebody spend nearly all his time, money and energy for activism, lift it up to a professional level and keep the work going, where's the problem? Where should he get his money from? The server from jwsurvey.org not for free, the protection for the website is not for free, his journeys not for free, the videos cost time, software and so on. I think it's easy to attack a person, but I think there not much people out there, they do so much. Also, it is not anythink like the WTG, spending money is not a part of salavation. You can do it or not. I know some activists, they always struggle with some money issue's when the like to make more for the activism.

So if you able to be an activist, make more as cedar and do it for free, I'm happy to hear from you, your website and your youtube-channel.

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Some gems from the "Anointed" WT study

by NotBlind in

i know this has been discussed before, but i think some of these wacky (but thought-provoking) comments deserve their own thread.. paragraph 6 says: modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope.

they do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.

somebody needs to send this memo to the gb.

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I found this a way better:

Paragraph 6:

"Some may have had a rather sudden realization of their calling, while others experienced a more gradual realization."

Paragraph 9:

"Simply put, by means of his holy spirit, God makes it clear to that person that he is invited to become a future heir in the Kingdom arrangement."

Paragraph 15:

"In fact, if you are wondering whether you have received the heavenly calling, that would in itself indicate that you have not received it."

God make it so clear that they do not have to think about if they are choosen but some of them need time to realize that they are choosen. Make absolut overlapping sense...

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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

by thedepressedsoul in

wow this is interesting!

i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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Look up this program again. Did you see that friday is the part of the strange content? On friday nearly no guest attend the convention, so they also hide it for the puplic.

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To those who attended, attendance up or down at your memorial?

by Crazyguy in

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interesting to see if there's a noticeable trend in memorial attendance.

also did they talk more then usual about ones not to partake?

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Normal boring talk so far. Massive down, don't count it, but it looked very empty.

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Sweet 16 - Happy Birthday to Us !

by Simon in

it's the forum's 16th birthday today!.

amazing that not only have we lasted so long but we're still thriving and growing.. thanks to all the people and often colorful characters who've contributed to the site over the years.

some are still here with us, some have since moved on, but all have touched each others lives in some way along our different journeys.. .

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Congrats, happy birthday and best wishes. Thank Simon for the hard work.

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Watchtower is cashing in on China

by nakanozzi in

japanese brother in china recently revealed thatmany wealthy chinese are interested in watchtower’s teaching and donating money.ex-cos and ex-district os are now preaching undercover in china,and, numberes of special pioneers in china are growing !

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No, I don't see it this way. Normaly yes. But 2 points make a difference here. It's forbidden literature and the chinese view about books. If you talk to people who was JW when it was forbidden, they don't give the books away like in other countries, they not used in a typical d2d-way. Same in china. And the chinese people normally don't throw books away.

From what I know, mostly they smuggled books to china, no flyer or so.

In conclusion books come to china, given only to the jw and when given away, only for people who study. If they stop, they have to give it back. Also if they don't give it back, they sell it sometimes but don't throw it away.

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Watchtower is cashing in on China

by nakanozzi in

japanese brother in china recently revealed thatmany wealthy chinese are interested in watchtower’s teaching and donating money.ex-cos and ex-district os are now preaching undercover in china,and, numberes of special pioneers in china are growing !

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China and Hongkong different areas. So the big business is in Hongkong. At bethell they told me, from there the people went out to china and pay a lot of stuff for all branches worldwide. It was also very strange at bethell Hongkong, a lot of locked places. We visit some wealthy chinese people there, which be jw or study. How the money went outside China (maybe to Hongkong) I don't know.

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Watchtower is cashing in on China

by nakanozzi in

japanese brother in china recently revealed thatmany wealthy chinese are interested in watchtower’s teaching and donating money.ex-cos and ex-district os are now preaching undercover in china,and, numberes of special pioneers in china are growing !

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It is nothing so new, I think. It's a market for JW.ORG that's growing. Even years before, a lot of undercover witness preaching there. If you like to meet them, go to Hongkong, there everytime some of them, because of problems with the passport and a bethell there. I smuggle much literature, when I travel to china years before.

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Ekala Convention Hall To be Sold - Sri Lanka

by Sanath in

sri lanka has only one convention hall which is situated at 44, agaraduguru mawatha,ekala,ja-ela wp.

this was built on some where around 1990's.

now the sri lanka branch committee has decided to sale the property.what is the reason behind this??????????????

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Sounds interesting. Thank you and welcome.

Should we start a thread with sold kingdomhalls to collect them? Only time of sale, maybe a link to a press-articel? Could be an interesting collection.

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Never Allowed to be Myself

by NeverAllowestobeMyself in

so my handle has a typo, it is supposed to be never allowed to be myself but i'm okay with that because it is kind of symbolic of my situation.

as a born-in i have always had expectations forced on me, this is what you are to think, feel and do as a jehovah's witness.

my earliest memories involve being upset that i would die at armageddon because i was bad.

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Welcome.

I also fight with beeing myself. So much new. On the other site, who I am? Then go back to the other site and fake to be a beliver.

So I wish you the best. Keep fighting!

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