ExBethelitenowPIMA
Well I must have been misled as well here at HQ! Send me the information and I'll cross examine it and come back to you with the information I have.
redsetter2
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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TonusOH
The Watchtower only cares about obedience to the GB regardless of what they've currently been teaching or what they previously taught. They wouldn't care if even the most hardcore of JWs stumble or question things. All they expect is absolute obedience and quickly readjusting to changes without question.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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diogenesister
That is precisely what I mean, thanks for clarifying this on the thread. The Org will definitely focus on punishing only those who are:
• Members of the opposite sex who engage in intercourse, who are not married to each other
• Members of the same sex masturbating each other, having oral / anal sex or kissing and expressing other intimate expressions (remains unchanged, still anti LGBT)
There will be an updated article one day explaining Jehovah's Witnesses' view of gay marriage, that not doing so is their "lifestyle choice" and within the realm of their religious beliefs, peppered with politically correct language to appease the world.
Consensual non penetrative sex and masturbating each other will not necessarily be encouraged, but at the same time it won't be discouraged, as long as it is mutual, private, and isn't spread as gossip within a congregation, to prevent scandals. Not that it isn't a scandal anyway! As we can see, the org will in its own way double down on avoiding liability for preventing consensual sex, making themselves look good in the eyes of the world's governments. Also, the changes will be to prevent further apostasy through "harmful gossip" in the congregations.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Avoidjw
We have gone through this and I requested MissUsato phone up WHQ which hasn't happened. She does however represent AvoidJW. There is no "document" that outlines the 10-year plan, that's not how Watchtower works, so you can't verify it this way.
This information has come from a series of confidential meetings at Headquarters, they'll never put in print anything that makes them liable. Why question is why would anyone in their right state of mind lie about something like this? You'll always have my word for it until it comes out, however I hope MissUsato is aware that my predictions about disfellowshipping came about exactly as I said.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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joey jojo
A recent letter to the BOE already clarified their stance on higher education and how it doesn't necessarily affect position of brothers in the congregation etc, that's just a small matter which may be developed further, but it's not part of the "10-year plan".
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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redsetter2
I too find some of these changes hard to believe, let me clarify why some are being "looked into".
JWs will in time, be allowed by conscience to wear tattoos or piercings, as long as they do not reflect "extremes" in the world or identify them with the LGBTQ community.
Smoking tobacco and marijuana as well as taking of drugs will still be strongly discouraged, however they will no longer be considered disfellowshipping offences and in most cases reproval will be the goal of judicial committees in these areas.
Again, this is due to the Governing Body's gradual changing of stance on what really is a decision by conscience and what really merits a disfellowshipping offence. Reportedly, many disfellowshippings take place because elders lack real discernment concerning whether a person is truly repentant or not. The GB are in panic mode, because this approach has created more "apostates" for them and they're now trying to crack down on the rise of apostasy, which is more common than sexual immorality within the org now. Speaking of which, the next point I certainly questioned:
Also, the Governing Body will issue a statement that different forms of sex within marriage (such as oral and anal) are now permissable, as long as a married couple does not openly talk about sex otherwise they will be counselled by the elders.
Additionally, private consensual intimacy and sex between adults of the opposite sex will be a conscience matter, as long as vaginal sex and pregnancy is not involved and as long as the activities are not broadcast openly to other members of the congregation. If a married person is involved, they must receive permission from their spouse and then respect their mate's decision if they refuse to permit it, otherwise a judicial committee will be formed and repeated attempts will be made to help that one gain "repentance".
The word porneia is being reexamined. The Governing Body feels that the current stance on it has actually contributed to more apostasy, more negative press against Jehovah's Witnesses. So a somewhat permissive compromise may help them escape further legal action, especially with the fact they plan on using the words "consent", "consensual" and specifically "adults", avoiding legal action with CSA cases in the Org. In fact, they may even relax on porn watching and encourage couples to enjoy it privately , but without mentioning it to the rest of the congregation. This I think is a complete deviation from Christianity in general anyway, so their attempts to use this as part of an effort to become more like "First Century Christianity" is pointless.
Regarding blood transfusions, there will be stronger statements issued regarding refusing blood. However, the mention of blood fractions will be removed altogether, and in time the Enjoy Life Forever book will be revised to reflect this change. HLCs will also have revised documents removing all mention of blood fractions, that doesn't mean JWs can stop using transfusion based alternatives with fractions of blood. The purpose of the proposed change is to again fight back against the criticisms of apostates and to "hide the evidence", so to speak, that transfusions are a conscience matter. Flip flopping around the issue, they plan on covering their own tracks.
Regarding the Memorial change, this adjustment has been a long time coming, considering JWs already loosely teach that if a member of the Great Crowd cannot attend the observance of the Memorial due to sickness then that's ok because the celebration is only in place for the remnant. Hope that makes sense.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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redsetter2
The biggest change for this year will be at this year's Annual Meeting as well as the next odd ones over the next 10 years. Watch this space.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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redsetter2
I am sure we were all shocked at the Governing Body Update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.
I am an insider at WHQ, and when I was on Reddit and in communication with AvoidJW I explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the New Light at the 2023 AGM, that the Jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how JWs approached disfellowshipping in response to the Norway situation if it didn't turn out in Watchtower's favor. The decision came because of a legal blow to Watchtower, not because "Holy Spirit" wad directing a Faithful Slave, who is going to become the "Evil Slave", more explanation on this soon.
Everything I stated came true.
I left Reddit EXJW community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true. I also stopped contact with AvoidJW due to the fact they did not phone WHQ for verification on my identity and they insisted on other methods of verification when I had made it resoundingly clear who I am in confidence with them. Now, AvoidJW has published in detail an article on the Update which I said would happen earlier this year.
Anyway, I must press forward with explaining what has been happening, and the plan of action for the Governing Body now.
Using an analogy of a chess piece on a chessboard, the Governing Body only makes its "moves" doctrinally and in its more secular organizational policies when its legal "opponent" gets in its way. The Governing Body have as little power and reliance on "Holy Spirit" as they let on. It's a façade, an image given to assure spiritually strong JWs that this is the Truth®.
All I can reveal is this:
The Governing Body has a 10-year marketing plan to remodel the Organization to become closer to a mainstream Christian religion.
Standards / Bible principles
Over the next few months and years, there will be more clarification on "conscience matters".
JWs will in time, be allowed by conscience to wear tattoos or piercings, as long as they do not reflect "extremes" in the world or identify them with the LGBTQ community.
Smoking tobacco and marijuana as well as taking of drugs will still be strongly discouraged, however they will no longer be considered disfellowshipping offences and in most cases reproval will be the goal of judicial committees in these areas.
In time, birthdays will be permissable under certain circumstances if the conscience allows. Weddings to non witnesses will also be no longer "frowned upon", as the suggestion will be given that a Christian woman by union with a respectable man may "win him over" to the "truth".
Also, the Governing Body will issue a statement that different forms of sex within marriage (such as oral and anal) are now permissable, as long as a married couple does not openly talk about sex otherwise they will be counselled by the elders.
Additionally, private consensual intimacy and sex between adults of the opposite sex will be a conscience matter, as long as vaginal sex and pregnancy is not involved and as long as the activities are not broadcast openly to other members of the congregation. If a married person is involved, they must receive permission from their spouse and then respect their mate's decision if they refuse to permit it, otherwise a judicial committee will be formed and repeated attempts will be made to help that one gain "repentance".
Chaperones will no longer be advised for courting couples, and matters of intimacy between them, including kissing, are no longer discouraged, as long as no vaginal intercourse is involved, which would result in disfellowshipping if the woman is discovered to be pregnant.
Blood transfusions will not be considered a conscience matter, in fact it will be back to how it used to be, instead they will reverse their opinions on using transfusion alternatives with blood fractions.
Doctrines
The Faithful Slave will soon refer to all Christians "taking the lead" in the Organization, not referring to solely anointed Christians. The Evil Slave may refer to the Governing Body of today in the event legal issues cause them to completely disband. Otherwise, the evil slave will simply refer to wicked men who manage to take the lead in Jehovah's Organization today.
The Revelation prophecies and Isaiah and Daniel prophecies will be completely rebranded and diluted to refer to more "faith strengthening" lessons on how Jehovah would help his people during the Last Days and into the 1000 year reign of Christ.
The memorial of Christ's death will no longer be observed by all of Jehovah's Witnesses, only the "anointed".
Christmas, Easter, Halloween, and the like will still be rejected however more clarification will be given that a Christian can choose to join non witness relatives on their holiday celebrations with an opportunity to "give an alternative witness" to them by non participation in holiday rituals.
The New World Translation will be revised again by 2033.
The Song Book will again be revised by 2033.
No more new printed publications will be produced after 2034, everything will be made available online. JWs will instead have the NWT, the Song Book, Midweek and weekend meeting schedules, and a set number of pamphlets. The public magazines will no longer be published after 2033. From 2034 onwards, the Watchtower Study Edition will be larger, with more supplementary articles for children, adolescents, and non JWs reading along at the meetings.
The 1914 doctrine will be abandoned last.
Meetings, Assemblies, Conventions
Over the next 10 years, the Conventions will include 2 new episodes of the Good News According to Jesus, after which in 2034 there will be a feature length film based on the entire book of Acts. After that feature length film, the JWs will have hoped to have become closer to "first century Christianity", even though they make this claim already.
After 2034, there is supposedly be no more conventions or assemblies planned, and congregations will be remarketed for local meetings redesigned in a similar way as the original Bible Students group. The name "Jehovah's Witnesses" will no longer be designated beyond 2034, however I am not aware of what the "new name" will be.
The weekend meetings in time will be shortened, still with a public talk (always with one or 2 videos) and a 10-12 paragraph Bible Discussion based on an article in the Watchtower study edition. Some weeks will focus on a study article, other weeks will focus on age specific topics or topics for the public. The Watchtower study edition will completely change and become the only magazine produced for the Organization, and it will include inside the midweek meeting schedule which will also be revised to a more simple format.
Ministry
The necessity for Territory Servants will be gone, and maps for door to door ministry will end within the next few years. It will depend upon the conscience of each Christian taking the lead in ministry groups which street to cover and how many houses they will work. Additionally, informal witnessing at the workplace or other places will be strongly encouraged. Public Witnessing carts will also come to their end by 2034.
Oversight:
In the next few years these changes may take place.
Bodies of Elders will be reviewed periodically by Circuit Overseers. The CO will have to power to remove any elder who doesn't meet Bible standards. Elders will no longer meet for the "quarterly" to recommend appointments, rather Circuit Overseers will recommend the appointments to the elder bodies. If the elder bodies have a disagreement over an appointment, they can discuss this with the CO. Only if the person concerned is engaged in questionable activities, then a CO may retract his suggestion and offer advice personally to the individual who was considered for appointment. However, most brothers will now be considered for being appointed as elders or ministerial servants, regardless of their personalities. The only reasons why they would not be considered are for: severe mental issues or promoting a superior or disagreeing attitude. If this method works, Circuit Overseers will carry on indefinitely, with no change once in every 3 years. The term "travelling overseers" will no longer apply to them.
In summary, whether the Governing Body does decide to apply this exhaustive agenda to rebrand the Organization based upon my inside sources, all I can confirm is that this Organization is not run by Holy Spirit, and it is a corporate real estate business. Why can I say this? Because in none of these instances are there any changes coming regarding construction of Kingdom Halls and other projects. To Watchtower, these things will always be and will last forever. Mark my words, the bridge is coming down, and it's crumbling more quickly than it ever has done. Whether you choose to remain a JW or not, it won't matter either way, because your religion (or former religion) will be a completely different religion in the next 10 years.
redsetter2
(redsetter1 / nextgenwatchtower24 of Reddit)
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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!
by WingCommander inyou heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
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redsetter2
I'm sorry I joined late. It's been very busy here, but I can assure you that those at Bethel are just as stunned as congregation members, however we have many young ones eagerly lapping up these impulsive changes. I will detail an update in my next post.
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redsetter2
Update: The latest letter to bodies of elders now openly confirms under paragraph 5 that publishers attending theocratic schools are no longer required to be vaccinated.