Posts by redsetter2

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

RonPOMO

You have my word, pm me if you need any details other than what you already know, then you can call WHQ to verify with ease.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

AvoidJW

This is an Ad Hominem I presume? I can keep up with Reddit without participating or agreeing with posts if I wish, this is a free world after all. I don't condemn those who disagree with my actions, they have the same amount of freedom and the right to disagree as I have. We are trying to escape a high control cult after all.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1bhxt7h/remember_uredsetter1/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1bi05w1/beware_of_decoys/

Already on Reddit I'm gaining much attention, what a shame about the "beware of decoys" article. You can't please everyone.

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New light on shunning?

by Mikejw in

one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

redsetter2

Tony's departure was a very small part of this. He knew these changes were going to happen anyway, he was simply trying to slow down the changes.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Well I must have been misled as well here at HQ! Send me the information and I'll cross examine it and come back to you with the information I have.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

TonusOH

The Watchtower only cares about obedience to the GB regardless of what they've currently been teaching or what they previously taught. They wouldn't care if even the most hardcore of JWs stumble or question things. All they expect is absolute obedience and quickly readjusting to changes without question.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

diogenesister

That is precisely what I mean, thanks for clarifying this on the thread. The Org will definitely focus on punishing only those who are:

• Members of the opposite sex who engage in intercourse, who are not married to each other

• Members of the same sex masturbating each other, having oral / anal sex or kissing and expressing other intimate expressions (remains unchanged, still anti LGBT)

There will be an updated article one day explaining Jehovah's Witnesses' view of gay marriage, that not doing so is their "lifestyle choice" and within the realm of their religious beliefs, peppered with politically correct language to appease the world.

Consensual non penetrative sex and masturbating each other will not necessarily be encouraged, but at the same time it won't be discouraged, as long as it is mutual, private, and isn't spread as gossip within a congregation, to prevent scandals. Not that it isn't a scandal anyway! As we can see, the org will in its own way double down on avoiding liability for preventing consensual sex, making themselves look good in the eyes of the world's governments. Also, the changes will be to prevent further apostasy through "harmful gossip" in the congregations.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

Avoidjw

We have gone through this and I requested MissUsato phone up WHQ which hasn't happened. She does however represent AvoidJW. There is no "document" that outlines the 10-year plan, that's not how Watchtower works, so you can't verify it this way.

This information has come from a series of confidential meetings at Headquarters, they'll never put in print anything that makes them liable. Why question is why would anyone in their right state of mind lie about something like this? You'll always have my word for it until it comes out, however I hope MissUsato is aware that my predictions about disfellowshipping came about exactly as I said.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

joey jojo

A recent letter to the BOE already clarified their stance on higher education and how it doesn't necessarily affect position of brothers in the congregation etc, that's just a small matter which may be developed further, but it's not part of the "10-year plan".

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

I too find some of these changes hard to believe, let me clarify why some are being "looked into".

JWs will in time, be allowed by conscience to wear tattoos or piercings, as long as they do not reflect "extremes" in the world or identify them with the LGBTQ community.

Smoking tobacco and marijuana as well as taking of drugs will still be strongly discouraged, however they will no longer be considered disfellowshipping offences and in most cases reproval will be the goal of judicial committees in these areas.

Again, this is due to the Governing Body's gradual changing of stance on what really is a decision by conscience and what really merits a disfellowshipping offence. Reportedly, many disfellowshippings take place because elders lack real discernment concerning whether a person is truly repentant or not. The GB are in panic mode, because this approach has created more "apostates" for them and they're now trying to crack down on the rise of apostasy, which is more common than sexual immorality within the org now. Speaking of which, the next point I certainly questioned:

Also, the Governing Body will issue a statement that different forms of sex within marriage (such as oral and anal) are now permissable, as long as a married couple does not openly talk about sex otherwise they will be counselled by the elders.

Additionally, private consensual intimacy and sex between adults of the opposite sex will be a conscience matter, as long as vaginal sex and pregnancy is not involved and as long as the activities are not broadcast openly to other members of the congregation. If a married person is involved, they must receive permission from their spouse and then respect their mate's decision if they refuse to permit it, otherwise a judicial committee will be formed and repeated attempts will be made to help that one gain "repentance".

The word porneia is being reexamined. The Governing Body feels that the current stance on it has actually contributed to more apostasy, more negative press against Jehovah's Witnesses. So a somewhat permissive compromise may help them escape further legal action, especially with the fact they plan on using the words "consent", "consensual" and specifically "adults", avoiding legal action with CSA cases in the Org. In fact, they may even relax on porn watching and encourage couples to enjoy it privately , but without mentioning it to the rest of the congregation. This I think is a complete deviation from Christianity in general anyway, so their attempts to use this as part of an effort to become more like "First Century Christianity" is pointless.

Regarding blood transfusions, there will be stronger statements issued regarding refusing blood. However, the mention of blood fractions will be removed altogether, and in time the Enjoy Life Forever book will be revised to reflect this change. HLCs will also have revised documents removing all mention of blood fractions, that doesn't mean JWs can stop using transfusion based alternatives with fractions of blood. The purpose of the proposed change is to again fight back against the criticisms of apostates and to "hide the evidence", so to speak, that transfusions are a conscience matter. Flip flopping around the issue, they plan on covering their own tracks.

Regarding the Memorial change, this adjustment has been a long time coming, considering JWs already loosely teach that if a member of the Great Crowd cannot attend the observance of the Memorial due to sickness then that's ok because the celebration is only in place for the remnant. Hope that makes sense.