Posts by redsetter2

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Beware of someone who will "cry wolf"!

by redsetter2 in

the following is an excerpt from one of aesop's fables.. the boy who cried "wolf"!.

there once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep.

to amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, "wolf!

redsetter2

RonPOMO

I will begin by saying that you do not have all the facts. You read my messages, string them together and put together an image of who I may purport to be in an aggressive fashion, but can you really decipher my personality, who I really am, just from my messages?

Let me turn it around to you. Can I decipher who you are simply from your more critical messages towards me? No. I'm sure that you are a really nice guy, if you are a male Ron! What I'm trying to illustrate from this is that you cannot judge someone simply from your intuition of accounts online. I myself have read into things incorrectly, and I have replied in a passive aggressive fashion, then I realise that I missed out a sentence or I read something in a slightly different way from how it was meant to be said. It's human, I don't disregard this, to be completely honest with you I probably would react the same way as you would. However after hearing a message like this, I would hope to rethink everything I said. I'm not seeking attention. With regards my identification, I told you and MissUsato to call Bethel with the instructions I gave you, and this never happened. This was your obligation, and you absolutely failed. AvoidJW should not be viewed as a credible source for exjws, because like I said, now this doesn't undermine your cause, but I must say that undercover Bethel spies do infiltrate sites like this. How am I to know that you or MissUsato are not simply spies for bethel? Of course, I'm sure you're not. But using that argumentation, it helps me assess the matter in a more logical and balanced way rather than jumping to conclusions.

I can pull together the emails and paste them onto this site, but I don't think that's necessary because I don't believe in responding aggressively to a situation like this.

This is why I'm calling on all exjws to wait until October. If I'm a "false prophet" then you would know. But really, there's no point to me hiding behind a screen spouting falsehoods if that is what you purport me to be. If I have been doing this, there really is no point to me being here. I came here for a reason, to spread truth, not lies.

Also, commenting on what you mentioned regarding EXJW communities being full of JW spies, I can say without doubt that yes, they are full of spies, especially on Reddit. Why do you think there's an influx of "PIMO" JWs and active elders on there bringing their grievances? I received private messages from active JWs who believed in being a JW, but they trusted neither the Governing Body nor the exjw community in general. I'm sorry to say that factions like this do exist and I gave them my heartfelt sympathy, as they allow themselves to be trapped. I liked chatting with these genuine truth seekers, but my heart goes out to them and I hope they have the strength to leave when they can.

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Beware of someone who will "cry wolf"!

by redsetter2 in

the following is an excerpt from one of aesop's fables.. the boy who cried "wolf"!.

there once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep.

to amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, "wolf!

redsetter2

The following is an excerpt from one of Aesop's Fables.

The Boy who cried "wolf"!

There once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep. To amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, "Wolf! Wolf! The Wolf is chasing the sheep!"

The villagers came running up the hill to help the boy drive the wolf away. But when they arrived at the top of the hill, they found no wolf. The boy laughed at the sight of their angry faces.

"Don't cry 'wolf', shepherd boy," said the villagers, "when there's no wolf!" They went grumbling back down the hill.

Later, the boy sang out again, "Wolf! Wolf! The wolf is chasing the sheep!" To his naughty delight, he watched the villagers run up the hill to help him drive the wolf away.

When the villagers saw no wolf they sternly said, "Save your frightened song for when there is really something wrong! Don't cry 'wolf' when there is NO wolf!"

But the boy just grinned and watched them go grumbling down the hill once more.

Later, he saw a REAL wolf prowling about his flock. Alarmed, he leaped to his feet and sang out as loudly as he could, "Wolf! Wolf!"

But the villagers thought he was trying to fool them again, and so they didn't come.

At sunset, everyone wondered why the shepherd boy hadn't returned to the village with their sheep. They went up the hill to find the boy. They found him weeping.

"There really was a wolf here! The flock has scattered! I cried out, "Wolf!" Why didn't you come?"

An old man tried to comfort the boy as they walked back to the village.

"We'll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning," he said, putting his arm around the youth, "Nobody believes a liar...even when he is telling the truth!"

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The moral of the story is that lying gets you nowhere because people won't believe you if you even begin to tell the truth.

Would you say that you are an honest exjw? I hope so. But we can't trust everyone, and at the same time we cannot distrust everyone.

That "spiritual" elder, you know, the one who appears to do everything by the book and always gets his way, you know him? He may be watching porn regularly, or looking at apostate websites. Now the GB cannot regulate this, but it is true: elders are not allowed to watch any porn (regardless of how things are worded in the Shepherding textbook) nor are they permitted to read "apostate" information from exjws. This is only reserved for a strict few amongst Bethelites who form committees to investigate matters, often from the PID department.

So if you know an elder who has read apostate information from any exjw sites, then you can report him to his elder body. See what power you can have over these dispensable men.

On the other hand, the biggest scandal recently I have observed is that one person after another has risen up to claim that they have inside information that they are leaking. I want to reveal the following caution and information.

BEWARE OF LEAKERS

The regular Jehovah's Witnesses will vehemently deny that this is a thing, however the PID department from World Headquarters does use "fake leakers" under various pseudonyms, primarily on Reddit and some other sites. The Watchtower Organization also views all websites not connected with JW.ORG as potentially apostate sites, including the infamous JW community site JWTALK.

These leakers may follow through all the methods of the KGB and Gestapo to get what they need. They may give subtle hints, knowing that changes will in fact happen within the Org.

The Instagram account JW Barbas was originally planted by a Bethelite for a few years leading up to the policy change on beard wearing for Jehovah's Witness men. This was done so as to test the waters before a change took place.

We may wonder what the purpose of this is? There doesn't seem to be an end goal for Watchtower.

It's all for legal reasons. By engaging with the exjw community privately they deceitfully tell governments that this is one way they do not shun members.

Additionally, by engaging with exjw communities, JW spies test the waters to see how "unbelieving relatives" are thinking and what they will potentially persecute Jehovah's Witnesses for next. By minimising persecution and legal issues through devious methods such as this, the Watchtower Organization deliberately attempts to keep itself alive when it knows all too well that Watchtower is a machine that will always harm its members.

All I can say, as dissident, I will resign from Jehovah's Witnesses in the next month for my own security. The "leaks" which I have provided are not a boy "crying wolf", rather I have been surrounded by many cries of wolf by JW spies online attempting to discredit my information and malign the reputation I attempted to gain. Nevertheless, I hold Watchtower fully accountable for their evil and non Christian acts.

Leaks in general are extremely difficult to come out of Bethel, and I implore everyone to take as a grain of salt even the information I provided, because the GB are always reactionary, nothing is ever set in stone. Hey, this 10 year plan may even be a 5 year plan when I leave. At the end of the day there is no real plan. The Watchtower organization are simply aiming to survive, and they will do whatever it takes to do that, even if it means losing loyal members.

Over and out

rs2

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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.

you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.

but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?

redsetter2

Thomasmore

I think relaxing of birthday celebrations in October is oddly specific. The GB may mention new light then, but changes usually are effective the week after or into the next year. Wait for the 'Chariot'®!

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Will New Rules Bring JWs Together or Pull Them Apart?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

there's been a lot of discussion about the changes in the org.

you might think all this would shake things up, especially for the older or super dedicated jws.

but remember when gb decided all the khs and the bank accounts needed to be transferred/managed from the top?

redsetter2

notformer

They already are a sex cult.

Just read all the scandals between couples that have come to light on forums like this, as well as the countless horrific CSA cases. Jehovah's Witnesses have an unhealthy obsession with sex and always project this onto "worldly" people, who don't give a damn

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1bkr7q4/and_to_the_more_changes_that_are_comin

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

I don't personally wish to gain "attention", only the information I've made available needs to be widely known. I'm the same as everyone else. I understand the healthy skepticism, let's keep it healthy and polite.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

daniel-p

I was only asking one person to call me, not multiple people.

And for your information, WHQ is a new term used by Bethelites. It's now even on the code of visitor leaflets.

Search on the JW website for fo_s-WHQ_E.pdf

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

In my own time I will reply to the PMs, I've received a few. I apologise for my delay.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

RonPOMO

You have my word, pm me if you need any details other than what you already know, then you can call WHQ to verify with ease.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

redsetter2

AvoidJW

This is an Ad Hominem I presume? I can keep up with Reddit without participating or agreeing with posts if I wish, this is a free world after all. I don't condemn those who disagree with my actions, they have the same amount of freedom and the right to disagree as I have. We are trying to escape a high control cult after all.