i'm looking for help to track down the development of the "generation" doctrine, starting with when the wt first specifically tied the end to the generation of 1914.. russell taught that 1914 would be the end of this system of things.
when that failed, rutherford started touting 1925.. no need to talk about generations then; it was just specific dates.. when did they first tie the end in to a "generation of 1914" time frame?.
i also know that they changed the meaning of generation several times.. first, a person had to have been at least 15 in order to have seen the events of 1914 with understanding of what was happening.. i think they lowered that to 10 and then finally it was anyone who was alive in 1914.. of course, now the generation overlaps.. does anyone know someone where all these wt teachings are set out chronologically (preferably with citations to the literature)?.
I expect career trolls Scholar and Fisherman will chime in any second with some "Nu-Lite" on this ridiculously concocted theology.
This complete nonsense originated way before Russell when John Aquila Brown stretched the limits of his imagination and then wrote the booklet "The Even Tide" in 1823. Russell read it 50 years later and then plagiarized most of it to come up with 1914.
When 1914 didn't pan out as expected, Russell (then Rutherford) were forced to buy more time.
this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
https://apnews.com/article/jehovahs-witnesses-child-abuse-pennsylvania-investigation-01660ed00de1f2a02f87c0597c9ae0af?fbclid=iwar0f8whtbzsjnyzze0p3xg8t1qcprtvjh9wfe2zzryv1pnr-ospnejxri0o.
charges put focus on jehovah’s witnesses’ handling of abuse.
by mark scolforo and peter smith - yesterday.
Thanks for this update.
i just had to pass this on to you.. it is an e mail that is making the rounds.. what do you think of this.... (beware!
gagging may be expected).
the 41,000 friends at the international convention in michigan .
I think he was crying because he propositioned a gay jw teen who turned him down and then later committed suicide. It was all covered up very nicely by the WT Legal Dept so we may never know what really happened.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Scholar
You obviously know nothing about cars. Otherwise, you would have quickly realized the video was a parody. That's exactly what you are... a parody.
or "a joke" if you prefer.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
of course this has been hashed and re-hashed as all of you know the feb. 15th wt is re-directing jw's to read the title of rutherford's talk as " millions now living may never die.
" however in reading crisis of conscience a second time - i found it interesting to see what ray franz said about this quote.. remember he wrote this book in 1983 , so keep it in mind when reading his quotes about this " millions " quote.
on pg.
Who remembers that Watchtower article (in 2010?) that changed the word "WILL" [never die] to "MAY" [never die]?
It was a sneaky attempt to white wash Rutherford's nonsense.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Scholar
These were your words:
(praising and then quickly minimizing his work in one sentence)
"Thus, his research impressive as it may be to some, it was simply a replication of others' research."
You pompous piece of shit.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Scholar
Can you provide some examples of the work that you allege Carl Olaf Jonsson plagiarized from SDA scholars in Australia?
ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!
have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?
i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.
Mom of 22-year-old elder:
"John I really need you to rake the leaves in the front yard. It's been piling up for weeks."
22-year-old elder:
"Can't help you mom. I have official elder business that you're not supposed to know about."
