Who remembers that Watchtower article (in 2010?) that changed the word "WILL" [never die] to "MAY" [never die]?
It was a sneaky attempt to white wash Rutherford's nonsense.
of course this has been hashed and re-hashed as all of you know the feb. 15th wt is re-directing jw's to read the title of rutherford's talk as " millions now living may never die.
" however in reading crisis of conscience a second time - i found it interesting to see what ray franz said about this quote.. remember he wrote this book in 1983 , so keep it in mind when reading his quotes about this " millions " quote.
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Who remembers that Watchtower article (in 2010?) that changed the word "WILL" [never die] to "MAY" [never die]?
It was a sneaky attempt to white wash Rutherford's nonsense.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Scholar
These were your words:
(praising and then quickly minimizing his work in one sentence)
"Thus, his research impressive as it may be to some, it was simply a replication of others' research."
You pompous piece of shit.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Scholar
Can you provide some examples of the work that you allege Carl Olaf Jonsson plagiarized from SDA scholars in Australia?
ever since the annual meeting last october and the letter to bodies of elders stating that "exceptional young men perhaps in their early 20's could qualify for appointment as elders.." it even states this in the updated elders manual!
have any of you pimo's, pimq's, or those on here with family/friends still in hear of any young men being appointed as elders yet?
i am talking 21, 22, 23, 24 etc.
Mom of 22-year-old elder:
"John I really need you to rake the leaves in the front yard. It's been piling up for weeks."
22-year-old elder:
"Can't help you mom. I have official elder business that you're not supposed to know about."
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
Very sad news...
I distinctly remember those two disingenuous Watchtower articles written by Rolf Furuli. They were October and November of 2012. No one in the writing committee or the governing body was competent enough to provide a basic overview of the 7 times of the Gentiles much less write articles about the subject.
i received an email with the following information that is worth sharing.. the 2011 yearbook goes to great lengths to elevate the truthfulness of watchtower information in even minor details, and criticise information from other sources.
so it is telling that the 2010 "jehovah's witnesses - faith in action, part 1" has omitted an important element of their history when re-enacting the 1922 cedar point convention.. under the heading "tracing all things with accuracy" the 2011 yearbook states: .
"jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics "their food at the proper time.
I recently re-watched this DVD. It is incredible how they blatany falsify their history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wackkicmf4k.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5lsyndc1me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
wtf
JW Broadcasting- March 2020
(no patience is required... the end is almost here)
“so the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we’re living in the final part of the Last Days. Undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the Last Days. Shortly before the last day of The Last Days.” – Stephen Lett
...
GB in 2023: 'Disregard what brother Lett said over 3 years ago. Now we have to be patient yet again.'
lloyd published a video, "things are bad," pretty much along the lines of lett's appeal for more money.. he'll have to let go tbo who does his editing, if he doesn't get more sponsor money.
he even mentions dijana.
he claims the defamation has hurt his family.. but he says the defamation suits are still ongoing and will take maybe years since it caused great harm to his channel saying that due to the defamation hundreds of his supporters dropped off because the defamation gave them the impression that he was someone he isn't and that led supporters to think he was misleading them somehow.. you can watch if you can sit through it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5hinrjexm4.
I was a fan until he started selling T-Shirts. Then I just tuned out.
this is the link to the memorandum of law in the hines v. watchtower csa case filed last friday 2/11/22.https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/viewdocument?docindex=vzujfhgk0etye/azc/kcbg==.
it is the wt lawyers reply in the trial where deborah hines accuses wt hierarchy even governing body members of continuing to employ a known child abuser, her own dad, at bethel because he was indispensable to them in video-production.
the slimy wt excuses start on page 7 of 28 where, as far as my non-legally mind can understand, the wt lawyers say the governing body can't get sued because they're not a corporation, nor are they mandated reporters of abuse, meaning they don't have to say anything by law even if they know a crime has occurred.. the slimy wt lawyers are also pretty good at playing with words to hide the fact that the governing body does run the business of the watchtower but from behind the scenes.
That just means that Deborah walked away with nothing more than a case of Macallan Classic Cut left behind in Tony's closet.