Posts by MrRoboto

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Universal sovereignty on trial

by Factfulness in

i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

god failed to prove his right to rule.

MrRoboto

Nicoloau, atheism can certainly be a religion, I'm not sure I would call it "theology" though.

A-theism is w/o god(s) which really means that a person believes there is no god. an agnostic is admitting that they have no knowledge of god(s) but without specifically saying they know there is no god. See the difference?

The one claiming knowledge of things that they cannot personally verify is practicing a religion complete with belief systems and all, whereas someone claiming not to know things they could not know is simply being honest.

Lets be honest, atheism is a religion as much as Christianity and there's even that sort of self-righteous attitude that can creep into atheists just like other religions.

If you've read any of my other posts, you'll know that I'm not coming from a place of judgement or pro-god or pro-bible so please don't take my words here the wrong way. Lets all just be honest is all I'm saying.

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Universal sovereignty on trial

by Factfulness in

i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

god failed to prove his right to rule.

MrRoboto

Speaking of Job, he ascribed nothing bad to god.

Except the bad things he ascribed to god.

Maybe Job isn't the best example of God's existence.

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How did Christianity Achieve its Position as the World's Largest Religious Grouping?

by fulltimestudent in

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there is little evidence to indicate that there were many christians in the first 2 or 3 centuries of its existence.

but after the conversion of constantine (or, at least his toleration of christianity) things changed.

with one notable exception all future emperors promoted christianity.

MrRoboto

Perhaps there is something to be said about forced conversions but when people are unfulfilled in life they tend to look elsewhere - religion.

Incidentally, some recruiters understand this and so they target those folks. JWs are good for this, targeting those who recently lost a loved one in death or going through other negative life changing events. This leaves the victim vulnerable to attack by these vultures who thrive on the emptiness that accompanies those going through those though times.

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Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate

by Whynot in

did anyone else watch the bill nye versus ken ham debate?

it happened february 4, 2014 and just watched it a few months ago.

i thought it was interesting but must confess that i felt extremely embarrassed for ken ham.

MrRoboto

I've seen Bill Nye lie about science when the facts were inconvenient. I'm not talking about opinion/belief differences, I mean flat out lies. Same goes for Neil deGrasse Tyson so I'll agree to the asshat assessment for both.

And Einstein.. He was more of a theorist than anything. Better than Nye for sure but still leaving much to be desired of a person to be called scientist. He appropriated much of others' work and still gets the credit to this day while still holding us back about a full century. At least he started to back-pedal on some of the nonsense in his later years but alas the damage is done.

Ahh the sad state of science. It would be funny if it weren't so truly awful.

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Newsweek: JW wives in Russia send letter to Putin advisor

by OrphanCrow in

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this article is dated june 7, 2018 and is likely a lead up to the bear ripping the jw bible article.

http://www.newsweek.com/wives-jehovahs-witnesses-jailed-russia-send-letter-putin-adviser-begging-end-965516.

the wives of jehovah’s witnesses rounded up and imprisoned in russia have written an open letter to a top adviser of president vladimir putin, asking him to stop the campaign of terror against the religious group.“this open letter to you is a cry of desperation.

MrRoboto

I feel for anyone in any place that suffers severe injustice.

Having said that, if JW members in Russia would simply follow the bible and the way 1st century Christians operated then they would be left alone.

Let me elaborate:

JWs meet together with banned material and even celebrate their history of smuggling literature.

1st century Christians did not need more than scripture to practice their faith and even then the bible doesn't mention each of the members having a copy.

1st century Christians met in homes but just as with the Jews, there is no scriptural mandate to gather for worship, it's just a tradition of men. Some will take exception to this and point out "let us never forsake the gathering...." but this is a superfluous rendering which deserves its own post.

So in short, of you're a Russian JW, stay home, worship with your family, chuck all the JW literature including the bible and get a commonly accepted translation for that country ( or does the bible say to use JW bible only? Did I miss that verse?)

lastly, never look back. Now you're on your way to being a real Christian and leaving the persecution behind.

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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

by BlackSpirit in

jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

MrRoboto

You better not be counting service time!

Go tell it to the mountain of that's the case, also feel free to take a leap of faith since that would mean you are here just to troll.

If you want easy service time then go stand at a cart like everyone else.

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Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

by BlackSpirit in

jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

MrRoboto

Black spirit, you can draw any inference you want but that does not make it logical or correct.

By your logic witches in American colonial times, pedophiles and murderers were/are all gods chosen ones.

Faulty logic is one reason why some people reject JWs.

I will give you my reason though: I oppose JWs because JWs steal lives.

Sometimes its a whole life, sometimes its some fraction. I don't expect you to understand that since it sounds like you are full of "zeal" (as You would say) but maybe one day you'll wake up to the truth and the truth will set you free.

For a good dose of truth, you should go watch the GB member Geoffrey Jackson's description of "led by holy spirit" in the Australian Royal Committee (ARC) footage - you can find it on YouTube.

Also watch the Australia branch reps LIE under oath in more ARC footage, also on YouTube.

And that's just the top of the iceberg! You should really watch all the JW/ARC videos of you can. it's alot, timewise, but you really get a feel for what the "leaders" are like.

If you're not disgusted, you're not paying attention.

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IMDB listing for a WTS video.

by Lost in the fog in

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3813052/?ref_=m_nm_knf_t1.

a good friend pointed this out to me.

he thought it was hilarious that the "top cast listing" was the governing body members.

MrRoboto

Apparently there is no way to get them removed from imdb even if it is cult propaganda..

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IMDB listing for a WTS video.

by Lost in the fog in

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3813052/?ref_=m_nm_knf_t1.

a good friend pointed this out to me.

he thought it was hilarious that the "top cast listing" was the governing body members.

MrRoboto

I think what you see here is a small part of a massive SEO campaign. SEO (search engine optimization) comes in many forms but the goal is always the same: to get seen on page 1 on Google, Bing etc.

That movie is one of several bORG vids on IMDB. IMDB holds alot of authority in the eyes of Google. Each page of the JW movies on IMDB has links to the others, passing the "link juice" as they say, onto the next. Because at least one of the movies had a link to the video on the jw,org site, the juice gets passed on. This would be extremely high value links back to the bORG mothership.

My two pence.

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Watchtower promotes the Antichrist in the new June 2018 broadcasting!

by jwdoctrine in

the watchtower promotes the antichrist in the new june 2018 broadcasting.

the latest june 2018 jw-broadcast shows a small clip at the end where a group of jehovah's witnesses are standing in a field waiting to be captured by armed forces.

right behind them, a white horseman appears with a bow and arrow shooting at the armed men.

MrRoboto

This is not the link from the OP but Wikipedia gives a few diff view points on the subject: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse