Posts by MrRoboto

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If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

by Isambard Crater in

the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..

MrRoboto

If I tell you something but I am actually thinking every other word to myself, am I lying or just omitting some truth?

Consider the following sentence

#1 Jehovah's Witnesses always lie about everything. You can't believe everything they say, ever.

Compare with what I REALLY was saying (bolded words are my own thought words, omitted from verbalization)

#2 Jehovah's Witnesses don't always lie about everything. You can't always believe everything they say.

Now, would I be a lying sack of spit if I were to contend that I didn't mean to mislead you, by telling you the first sentence, and saying that what I really meant was sentence #2?

That guy is a lying sack of spit if he's really a JW and should be D/F'd for lying about "Gods Organization™"

Omission of truth is no defense for lying.

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rebuilding JW homes & insurance question

by MrRoboto in

just wondering if anyone can confirm with their own experience, but especially with any kind of documents, as to whether the org really does take insurance money from disaster victims after the rbc / ldc repairs their homes?

and what of non-jws that might get assistance from them?.

this last wt study article for me thinking, what with all that unhypocritical love the org has going on..

MrRoboto

Good to hear they don't take it in India but wow! It's amazing there's anything left for the 150 JWs there after everyone has pulled out what they wanted

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Difficulty fading out

by Emily1987 in

jw
friends

this is my first post on here so i apologize that it is like an essay!.

my husband and i are currently 'fading out' of the truth.

we stopped preaching in may 2016 and limited meeting attendance in january 2017 and stopped completely in june 2017. my main reason for this was my whole life i have been doing things to please others, even getting baptized to please my mum.

MrRoboto

It's sh!t like this that leaves me seriously considering D/Aing myself and just letting the chips fall where they may - Ill have a few upset people and potentially serious family problems but at some point the control of the Seven Kings on Kings Drive must end!

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rebuilding JW homes & insurance question

by MrRoboto in

just wondering if anyone can confirm with their own experience, but especially with any kind of documents, as to whether the org really does take insurance money from disaster victims after the rbc / ldc repairs their homes?

and what of non-jws that might get assistance from them?.

this last wt study article for me thinking, what with all that unhypocritical love the org has going on..

MrRoboto

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone can confirm with their own experience, but especially with any kind of documents, as to whether the org really does take insurance money from disaster victims after the RBC / LDC repairs their homes? And what of non-JWs that might get assistance from them?

This last WT study article for me thinking, what with all that unhypocritical love the org has going on.

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Jehovahs Witnesses – Does the Sect’s name really mean for what it is ?

by EverApostate in

the term jehovah’s witnesses sounded weird to me even when i was in that cult.

why does god need witnesses to prove his existence?

there is no need for anyone to create a movement called “suns witnesses” or “moons witnesses” – in order to prove its existence and glorify it, because the sun and moon are evident to every species on earth.

MrRoboto

As with the non-celebration of most holidays and birthdays and many other things, the name was meant to differentiate the group from others claiming to be Christian.

Jehovah is not even a close approximation of the divine name

The 'witnesses' in the source scripture were all Jews and are long since dead.

Religion is a a snare and a racket

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JW.org Featured Artical: When Your Adolescent Questions Your Faith

by pale.emperor in

this is one of the featured articals on jw.borg at the moment.

could it be because the young ones are googling their parents religion?, seeing the bullshit?, and calling their parents out on it?

i hope so.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20120201/adolescent-questions-faith/.

MrRoboto

So this way your kids can get "encouraged" a la Conti and then are absolutely stuck in the bORG, unable to speak of the things they endured for fear of DFing. Great retention policy there fellas.

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Kingdom Halls Are Hall Full

by SplaneThisToMe in

there’s all this talk about combining congregations to enhance kingdom hall utilization.

the branch offices keep calling the halls half full.

are they half full or half empty?

MrRoboto

Being neither a pessimist nor optimist,I would say that the halls are simply twice as large as necessary.

Extending this concept a little bit though, since we are not talking about a single cup but an entire group of halls, we can also say that there are twice as many KHs than is necessary.

Incidentally, I've noticed this empty hall deal at my own kh (being pimo) as well. When it first started, I was all-in and thought that it was just some local anomaly due to bad attitudes and cronyism. Now a days, even the CO visit doesn't draw the crowd that it used to, the folks that would only show up for the CO - don't.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

MrRoboto

Along with the Earth being hanged upon nothing, the north is stretched out over nothing (wbts bible says "northern sky" but original text didn't say that) (somewhere in job)

I'm not a flat earther but I've seen some of the stuff they use in support and viewing of all the kingdoms by Jesus and Satan, from one vantage point, is one of those things.

Again, I'm not a flat earther but I wanted to note that none of the motions mentioned in the above posts are measurable/provable from our vantage point here, as noted by Einstein. There is no device on earth that can detect its movement, whether it be rotational, the spiral motion mentioned above, nor any other movement. Yet motion is easily detectable on planes, ships etc with a variety of mechanical and electrical/optical devices. All of these devices are sensitive enough to detect the motion of a plane, far above the surface (larger curve than surface) and they detect nothing on the surface. Before anyone mentions the F. pendulum, consider how it SHOULD move at the equator, and compare to actual movements. Hint: it should be stationary but leaning opposite to the direction of earths axial rotation.

What I find funny about the Jesus/Satan hill account is that Satan offers all those kingdoms to Jesus, if only he will perform one act of.... bowing down? (obiesence) or was that worship? Funny, when Satan wants it, is worship, when others give it to Jesus, it's just obeisance, even though the Greek word is the same.

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HQ must be paying Google to get the top hits

by nonjwspouse in

i typed into google jehovahs-witness and the first four hits were borg sites.

this site was not even on the first page .

MrRoboto

I've noticed a similar tend when searching for specific ideas and phrases (even ones that are not JW specific)

I have also found evidence of their SEO tactics when the whole Russia thing was happening. Yes they are paying services to get then listed first, even using black hat methodologies (like articles in online African news papers and lots of other funny places that link back to their Russia articles on jw-dot-org)

I also use incognito mode, which basically keeps Google from knowing "who" you are, or associating your long term browsing history with your current session. One thing especially for mobile users to remember though is that your cookies (tracking) is still there until you close the browser so if you just got done binge reading on the jw site, your next search on a scriptural topic may still show the jw site at the top of the Google results, if you have not closed the browser first.

It also helps their online authority when sites like this have a massive amount of links to various jw org pages which is why I try to make sure not to type the jw . org site here because it tends to auto-link on this forum.

But yes, OP is absolutely right about the shenanigans, even if they are a little off, since they are not actually paying Google.

The link below (moz.com) is long but it shows you some of the nonsense links the bORG has acquired, including to online newswires and other places that are only for ranking higher.

https://moz.com/researchtools/ose/links?site=Jw.org&filter=&source=external&target=page&group=0&page=1&sort=page_authority

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What Would Happen If A Governing Body Member Was In Russia After The Label Of Extremist Was Held Up In Court

by Brokeback Watchtower in

would they get their visa revoked?

would they be arrested?

if i remember right didn't one new guy gb go to the procedings and was there for appeal?

MrRoboto

I was a bit disappointed when I realized that the Sanderson & posse were not detained and appropriately dealt with at the conclusion of the proceedings.

Too bad, such a moment lost in time, not likely to be seen again. Should have been a nice financial drain too, when the bORG faught tooth&nail to get him back. May have been able to raise some questions about how the "slave" could operate with one of the members gone, after all, it's a composite slave, only the slave when they are all together.

Too bad, too bad.