i just finished reading chapters 11-12 of raymond franz, crises of conscience & i must admit, i am pretty strong person, however the way ed dunlap & ray franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how ed was kicked out by wt, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but i admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a christian after all his service.... & of course ray franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... i'm soo grateful i came across this book & i wished i had much much sooner.... i know god will reward both ed dunlap & franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet i feel deep christian love for them......
For those curious Crisis of Conscience will be back in circulation at nominal prices.
I noticed that the pricing is quite high and is usually but various private sellers or those with a few left.
Like I said though this will be back in full circulation very soon.
i've noticed that each wt lesson really only has one or two points they want remembered.
normally they build up to these by about the third subheading.
this week's lesson though was different, the main point was insidiously made through an experience in the first paragraph:.
@freemindfade is freaking dead on. Do you think the baptism questions are to see if you know the teachings of the organization? Yes some are but pay attention to the more than half of those which are targeted at consequences. They are formulated in a way where you're answering in the affirmative that you realize there are repercussions.
The second question at the day of the baptism the contract is inked.
Make no mistake this process is so that you can be held accountable. It's as plain as day. There's no conspiracy here that is exactly what it was designed for.
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
@Wasanelder you know as well as I do that this sometimes expedites the reinstatement at times. This is because the new brothers in the new hall are not emotionally invested. This allows pressure to naturally build with them and the original brothers.
Yes the orig. committee holds the cards ultimately but the pressure from those brothers in the new hall has been proven to expedite matters. Seen it first hand more than one.
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
one of the sillier notions taught at km schools is the concept of "teaching through prayer.
" the idea is that words supposedly directed to jehovah god through christ jesus are actually aimed at individuals who are in a position to say "amen" to the supplication.
for example, in a judicial setting brother pompous opens the hearing in prayer: "dear jehovah, we ask your blessing on this arrangement.
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
I don't think pointing out statistics will help @BarelyThere at this point.
Don't know her situation. Without the threat of sanctions had she been able to part ways with her husband does any of this happen?
People feel trapped. Marriage is hard. I don't condone splitting a whim but there are times when ppl are seriously distraught. You don't know someone until you live with them.
Stats simply aren't going to help her. Not in my opinion at least.
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
@BarelyThere
I concur with @stired I PM'd you as much. Unfortunately this is how they'll see it. If you marry particularly to this other brother, it will likely extend the length of time.
anyone have a complete original set of studies in the scriptures i can buy.
interested in other books as well.
older the better.
hey everyone!!
i hope everyone is doing good today.
i don't share or comment often, but i'm in the mood to do that today.
hey everyone!!
i hope everyone is doing good today.
i don't share or comment often, but i'm in the mood to do that today.
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Thanks so much for your kind words. It's Ironic you mention this. I've been feeling sad and withdrawn and wondered why. I've been trying to put my finger on what it is. You're email couldn't have been more timely. I watched the latest JW broadcasting and was really moved by the story of the kingdom hall/assembly hall that was being built but was held up due to a lack of sand for concrete. The story indicated how Jehovah showed his blessing via a typhoon washing up the needed sand. It made me think of the typhoon that washed away 33 lives in the Philippines a year earlier 22 of which were huddled in the kingdom hall likely praying for their lives.
You've helped me realize what's missing...
Friend's who can think for themselves and aren't utterly brainwashed.
Sincerely,
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